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SHOCK HORROR: Melbourne union discovered doing good

ArealunionBecause of crooks, thieves and megalomaniacs like $270K per annum HSU boss Kathy Jackson, there’s been lots of bad news about unions recently to the point where many union leaders across have worried about the future.

Truth is that unions are a tremendous force for good in Australia, with only a few notorious exceptions.

The Plumbers Union in Victoria are seen as an example of a tough, efficient and ably-run union that enjoys tremendous popularity from its members in the plumbing caper.

The collapse of big employer Hastie Group caused great anxiety in the construction industry across the country, especially Victoria where they have been big players.

Some swift work by the Administrators including Craig Crosbie, the Plumbers’ union and their members, the federal government and Hastie Group managers have saved 90% of the jobs of plumbers in the company, despite things looking very bleak just a week or so ago.

“It’s a bloody good day for the plumbers’ union,” its leader Earl Setches told a happy gathering of relieved Plumbers in Melbourne.

AAP reports today:

Mr Setches said all members who had been stood down since the Hastie Group’s $500 million collapse would also receive full entitlements, including double pay to make up for days missed.

He praised the work of administrator PPB and Mr Shorten for working with the union to save jobs.

Mr Shorten said he regretted the uncertainty of the last two weeks for employees.

“You can tell your kids tonight it will be alright,” he said today.

Kathy Jackson would have done well to see how a real unionist conduct themselves. It’s obviously too late for her now. The contrast between Jackson and the vast majority of self-sacrificing, hard-working, idealistic trade unionists we’ve known couldn’t be greater.

Plumbers Hastie grounp photo2

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  1. every Aussie worker owes whatever benefits they enjoy, to unions.

    Posted by Jack | June 7, 2012, 19:17
  2. Well done Earl, your a champ

    Posted by Labor mp | June 8, 2012, 9:31
  3. Wasn’t mr Carson the same person who collected funds for David davis defence from liberal mps and lib mates like Andrew Abercrombie?

    Posted by Hello hello | June 8, 2012, 9:33
  4. Well done PTEU. The ETU should take a page out of your book. Members First

    Posted by Plumbers No. 1 | June 8, 2012, 11:09
  5. so media whore MigHell goes on the telly and says how he has managed to get the ETU members from Hastie the arse. but the PTEU got full whack plus double bubble back pay. well done MigHell get the members their Protect entitlements instead of making the boss pay. you are truly a working class hero !!
    what a grub !!!

    Posted by jimmys mate | June 8, 2012, 12:08
  6. The unions, government and administrators taking a lot of credit for this, when the deal was done last week…with none of them involved.

    Hastie bought this company about three years ago for $34m. The orginal owner heard of the collapse so rang up the administrator and offered him $10m for the comapny. Sold, said the adminsitrator…good work if you can get it.

    The original owners never sold buildings, just rented it to them…he doesnt need the vehciles, tools and some people…he got his Kerry Packers momennt and good on him.

    Posted by comrade | June 8, 2012, 12:24
  7. MigHell has got his hand in sacked workers pockets. Not happy with getting the members the arse he is now putting a “processing fee” on the blokes who access the redundancy fund. In the past, the interest gained from the investments the Protect fund had covered ALL the administration costs and any money that was not used was split between NECA ( the bosses) and the ETU. MigHell has boasted of this at the State Council.
    How much money is in the fund ? $150 million plus !!! Even a financial moron will tell you that if this money was invested in the bank you would get at least 5%. So where is all the money MigHell?? $7.5 million on administration ??? Maybe its been spent on trips to London to see the insurance agency ?? Or Susanna ??
    Now the working class hero has decided to take money off members when they are at a time of their greatest need. So who has betrayed the workers now MigHell??? Why doesn’t the ETU put their hand in their own pocket and pay the extra admin costs? they have raped enough out of the fund over the journey. what an absolute disgrace that grub is..

    Posted by jimmys mate | June 8, 2012, 16:03
  8. @Jimmys mate- how dare you cast doubts on the great man! He has Howard worthless as his advisor/mentor/confidante , surely this is a masterstroke in getting more money into the ETUs pockets.
    Maybe gray has replaced mighell as chairman of the Protect board and this is his first DES idiom. Outstanding timing. Maybe Mighell owns the administration company?
    Or maybe the fund has had a run on it and there is NO money left.

    Posted by Dog Rolling in Poo | June 8, 2012, 18:02
  9. a dark day for the once mighty ETU

    Posted by 2nd by a long way | June 9, 2012, 12:53
  10. DEAN MIGHELL the working hero like fuck.THE AGE headline used to be firebrand,militant ETU leader.never was the case.just another lazy ETU official to busy spending members money on legal fees to stop the audit time to go.see you in federal court June 21st.

    Posted by jimmy | June 9, 2012, 20:16
  11. Dean is my hero he is so hard and strong, we’ve shared many a night watching DVDs.

    Posted by Delores the She-male | June 9, 2012, 20:57
  12. if you had not spent as much time dean, worrying about tony murphy and earl setches and trying to get the numbers to stop the audit. but no!!! your to busy doing deals with FATHER BOB MAGUIRE $70,000 for what. to hear your confession you will be there for a while in the box.as you no longer have the support of the CEPU and you left the hastie workers for dead. time to go resign or be expelled.

    Posted by jimmy | June 9, 2012, 22:54
  13. Jimmy, I think you are being very unfair on Dean Mighell by not mentioning that he did some bodgie arrangement with Daniher (footy Guy) that his company got to use The ETU’s Swanston Street building because at the time Daniher had something to do with the She-Mighells footy club and the She-Mighell wanted to be His friend

    Posted by Its endless | June 10, 2012, 15:46
  14. they reckon im dead bye bye dean

    Posted by bin ladin | June 10, 2012, 17:48
  15. i hear ESSENDON FC is 7 million dollars short for there new training facility. i recommend essendon contact dean always seem to find money for aberfeldie fc,coburg cricket club,tim watson and their chinese t shirt scam,clipsal sponsorship coburg fc,FATHER bob maguire,3AW neil mitchell plus you just cost the HASTIE workers millions of dollars, time to resign.

    Posted by jimmy | June 10, 2012, 19:09
  16. Why is it that male union officials are all such tossers? This article is just a pissing contest between the ETU and the Plumbers. No wonder the union movement is in the sorry state that it is in when it is full of the poorly educated and politically naive. They are all being played one way or another by the ALP, a promise of a job here, a preselction there. They know in their hearts that if they weren’t ‘union bosses’ they would just be another nobody, no one would want to know them and the unions they lead would be better off. Take that self promoting numpty Paul Howes and his recent rant on The Greens, how does Howes reconcile his own hypocrisy? His union the AWU (and others) have sponsored into parliament politicians who have been the very architects and promoters of various Free Trade Agreements and GATTS, these are the agreements that destroy Australian jobs, destroy unions and drive down conditions. Howes’ almost comdedic rant on the Roy Hill Project tell me more about this bloke than any of his previous offerings to the media, the fact he does it all with a straight face is very telling. Give me the honesty of the ‘leftist Greens’ any day than the jobs destroying likes of union bosses like Howes, he can rant till his nose bleeds but it will never change what he is, a politically confused, free trade promoting tosser who will gladly take his seat in the big house, make a cursory mention of his union past in his maiden speech and never glance backwards again as he begins his rise up the slippery pole and union members will again be better off.

    Posted by Anonymous | June 10, 2012, 21:30
  17. @Jack “every Aussie worker owes whatever benefits they enjoy, to unions.”

    Spoken like a true believer.

    Except Unions have also fucked business in this country for years due to their archaic belief that “bosses” are a force of evil and “workers” are all victims. The reality is often very different.

    Posted by Dan Lewis | June 11, 2012, 18:17
  18. Dean can afford to help others because he has made Victorian sparkies the best paid in the country and the cream of tradies.

    If Dean is not up to the job, or a tenth as bad as you constantly suggest, why does he keep winning support and elections. And don’t run the incumbency line.

    Jimmy, why dont yoy throw hat in the ring? Or have you and failed?

    TB

    Posted by True Believer | June 11, 2012, 21:29
  19. @ True Believer | June 11, 2012, 21:29

    You’re kidding me! A union boss who knows who it is he represents. A union boss getting runs on the board for workers? A union boss out there saying what it is that needs to be said. Yes, no wonder there is a major smear campaign going on. It’s the stock standard response from the ALP and its hangers on (the hacks, the ones waiting for a mates job, the ones waiting for preselection, the ones buying ALP memberships for the unions members to shore up their own positions). Frankly TB this bloke ‘jimmy’ who has been posting here seems a bit deranged, it’s the Abbott approach if you throw enough shit some of it will stick. As I have said here before as an ETU member, I am indifferent to Dean but he is a bloody good union leader and even for those of us who don’t always agree with him all the time he challenges us to think about things in a different way.

    Posted by Anonymous | June 11, 2012, 23:19
  20. Get this right DEAN… we are not in the federal court for nothing.you have tried everything possible to stop the audit, you no longer have the numbers.i see you want to charge the ETU members a processing fee to access their PROTECT accounts.the ETU makes millions of dollars of commissions from the insurance companies in the PROTECT accounts. you are up to no good again.just because the electricians are well paid does not give you the right to steal members money.it”s about time you told your members and stewards that you are under investigation regarding the audit of the books.ETU members i spoke to, have told me it has not been mention once since november 2011 when the national office asked the VICTORIAN ETU BRANCH to show their books.see you in federal court June 21st.

    Posted by jimmy | June 12, 2012, 10:28
  21. WELL DONE TO THE PLUMBERS UNION.EARL,PADDY,PAUL.

    PLUMBERS 3 ETU 0.

    TIME TO GO DEAN RESIGN OR BE EXPELLED.TROY YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS TIME TO ACT BEFORE IT;S TOO LATE.

    Posted by jimmy | June 12, 2012, 15:09
  22. Dan Lewis : you exagerate. You must be a boss that had an unfortunate experience.

    the truth is that without unions, Aussies would have nothing nor would the bosses as the average Aussie worker would not be able to buy their goods.

    During negotiations everyone tries for their best deal but business always tries to operate in a vacuum : they want their workforce poorly paid (hence the claim always during a wage increase- “we’ll all be rooned!” which I’ve heard for over 50 years but hasn’t happened yet)but want others in the workforce to have enough money to buy whatever goods or service they offer.

    Posted by Jack | June 12, 2012, 15:56
  23. Ick! I’ve got one-eyed snatch-worms!

    Posted by Felissa Myfe | June 12, 2012, 17:43
  24. The candle on the hill.

    The young ALP member and her mother watched as the election night darkness crept closer in around them, and their small fire spluttered and flickered against the wind.

    “Mother”, she said, “I hear the wolves ahowling, the hyenas laughing, and I see the jackals emboldened. Look over there, a poodle is pissing on our banner without fear. How will we survive these dark times”?

    “Hush now daughter, there will be a light to comfort us in the dark”.
    But Mother, said the unionist, “look over there. I see our working comrades being crushed, the unions persecuted, and the asylum seekers quailing in fear”.

    “Hush now daughter, there will be a spark to help melt the ice that is forming around our hearts.

    But “Mother”, said the age non impaired ALP member, “what thought or action can possibly see us through this pitch black and screaming storm, out to the other side, when the light will break through again”?

    “Well daughter”, said the Mother, “you must take comfort in small things, after the election, when the darkness has closed in, Bandt’s staffers will have poop on liver, like never seen before, and Bandt from mighty strider in these corridors of power will be reduced to the status of yapping cross bench pug-dog”.

    The young ALP member sat in silence as the darkness edged ever closer. As it finally closed in and their flickering fire succumbed to the wind, she turned to her mother and said “Mother, you are indeed wise” and together they smiled, huddled around this small candle of comfort, and waited for the darkness to lift.

    Posted by Off topic scribe | June 13, 2012, 9:15
  25. Jimmy you obviously don’t know Dean Mighell well at all. Anyone that really gets to know Dean works out that even though after a lot of professional training he is a good media performer (well he was before He got so fat) He is actually as dumb as all fuck. So unless he had some serious assistance in devising all these money making schemes (which you seem to label stealing off the ETU members, some would call it free enterprise) there’s no way a halfwit like him could have come up with all.
    Maybe taking unaccounted cash out of His own safe is within his capabilities but anything more integrated then that ? Come on the guy is a fucking moron.

    Posted by Dean's mate | June 13, 2012, 10:36
  26. Dean’s mate You are spot on. For your contribution you have won a complementary box set of ETU DVDs featuring 99% of the footage containing Dean Mighell ( before He got so fat). You can pick up your prize from the Southern Alliance financial services office at your leisure

    Posted by indifferent to Dean even though I am Dean | June 13, 2012, 11:33
  27. Thanks for your reply DEAN!!!the public see you speaking to the media and think he speaks well for a union offical.the reason you have put on so much because you do fuck all and eat.over the years you have gone through 8 accountants because you want them to do the books your way.when they don’t tow the line you either pay them out or set them up.now that you know that you are under investigation from the national office it’s only a matter of time.wait for your reply FEDERAL COURT JUNE 21st.

    THE MONEY IN THE SAFE BELONGS TO THE MEMBERS NOT YOU…….

    Posted by jimmy | June 13, 2012, 11:51
  28. great now can you please give hsu east back to sub btanches make the organises accounable to members

    Posted by freddy | June 13, 2012, 15:41
  29. @ jimmy | June 13, 2012, 11:51

    I don’t think the CEPU has a National office anymore jimmy. It’s a bit like those old European monarchies, the old Kings and Queens have no lands anymore so they seek exile and pretend they still have their titles, that’s a bit how the CEPU looks these days. About time some of the union amalgamations were unpicked I think; especially as everyone is talking about union democracy. Now that’s a real pisser that concept.

    Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2012, 23:42
  30. Paulie it is almost nightie time, sit on Mama’s knee while you suckle my saggy plump breast.

    Posted by Inga Binga | June 13, 2012, 23:48
  31. you really have no idea DEAN!!!i have a cult following similar to ivan maric.too late to be disappointed with the ALP DEAN. you don’t know if you are arthur or marthur one minute your for the greens,independent,bob katter you throw ETU money at any party that will beleive you.then they wake up too you, that you stand for nothing.time to go before you are expelled.see you in federal court June 21st.

    Posted by jimmy | June 14, 2012, 12:22
  32. Anonymous | June 13, 2012, 23:42 Good concept That might keep you out of Jail

    Posted by indifferent to Dean even though I am Dean | June 14, 2012, 12:53
  33. DEAN!!!you have been booked in for your treatment.

    Posted by jimmy | June 14, 2012, 14:57
  34. WHY DO NUT JOBS INSIST ON WRITNG IN CAPITALS?

    Posted by TB | June 14, 2012, 15:23
  35. TO GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS THAT’S WHY.

    Posted by jimmy | June 15, 2012, 9:20
  36. CAPITALS are the text version of SHOUTING and as we all know SHOUTING is rude. You don’t need to SHOUT to get the message across.

    Posted by Wake Up | June 15, 2012, 14:11
  37. OR WHEN YOUR MESSAGE IS FLAWED AND YOU RELY ON THREATS AND HYSTERIA TO ARGUIE THE POINT

    Posted by TB | June 15, 2012, 14:30
  38. DEAN!!!the message is you are corrupt. all will be revealed in the coming month’s.spending thousands of members money in the federal court is not a threat or hysteria it is happening as we speak.await your reply in the federal court June 21st.

    Posted by jimmy | June 15, 2012, 23:57
  39. DEAN!!!are you friends with Andrew Demetriou!he also is a dictator like yourself. a public figure whose salary is common knowledge, and has his books independently audited.not like yourself, that has plenty to hide.see you in federal court June 21st.

    Posted by jimmy | June 16, 2012, 16:34
  40. Is there a De-Sal commission payable to the my Organiser if I wish to post a comment here?

    Posted by Stillsons | June 16, 2012, 21:58
  41. Unions are like politicians. Most are actually genuine and decent and want to make a difference. Unfortunately the grubs like Kathy Jackson and Co leave a bad image of unions in the minds of ordinary people. We need good unions to stand up for better conditions for people, but they also need to do so working with, and not against employers.

    Posted by What the ? | June 21, 2012, 8:23

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