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WEASELS POP TOO SOON: Greens party lose despite perfect storm for Labor, 4% Stephen Mayne shamed once more
In life, not just in politics, pride precedes the fall.
And the Greens party’s extraordinary arrogance and pre-hatching chicken-counting certainly made their stunning upset loss in the Melbourne by-election all the more amusing for those of who wish the extreme-left ill.
The Greens party’s endorsed Melbourne Lord Mayoral candidate, a grouchy piece of work called Alison Parkes, triumphantly displayed the Australian’s headline and was photographed nearly salivating while tweeting how a Labor defeat in the Melbourne by-election would be disastrous for it.
This is a really important thing to understand about these people. The Liberals want to beat Labor but the Greens political party wish to destroy them or “replace the bastards”. If you’re concerned about the governance of the nation, and hope for moderates on both sides of politics to generally prevail, this is a clear and present danger for Australia.
It’s exactly the same phenomenon as sometimes brutally nasty ultra-left folk in student politics would act. As a result campus Labor folk would often get on pretty well with their opposite numbers in the Liberals because they realised mainstream values in Australia are not that far apart. As John Howard famously and graciously said after a tough defeat: “the things that unite us are so much greater than those things that divide us.”
If you want insight into how detached and disconnected the Greens party extremists can be, check out this anguished tweet from one of their comrades:
More astounding pre-hatch chicken-counting was exposed by the Herald Sun’s Ashley Gardiner whose excellent article on the “celebration” the Greens party high-command planned revealed so much. No doubt, in breach of copyright, but to honour Ashley’s fine work, we repeat it in its full deliciousness here:
Greens ‘ethical and sustainable’ post by-election bash
EXCLUSIVE: THE Greens are planning an “ethical and sustainable” night of mood music and ambiance.
Every detail to the last minute of the Greens election night bash has been planned.
The Sunday Herald Sun has obtained details of the event, to be held at the Lithuanian Club in North Melbourne tonight.
According to the running sheet, the aim is “to provide a celebratory event that shall provide a unique occasion to celebrate the finale of the Melbourne seat by-election 2012″.
It will “provide an ethical and sustainable event that will reflect the morale’s (sic) and policies of the Greens of all ages.”
“The event shall be family friendly and accessible to all, to allow members and supporters to come together and celebrate the campaign.”
Volunteers will be setting up the venue throughout the day until 6pm, when guests are expected to arrive.
A tally room will be set up, which is an “ambient and productive space for staff and guests”.
They will also set up a media room, which will require sign-in and lanyard identifications. [VEXNEWS: Who are these people?!]
Canapés begin from 6:30, and a speech will be made at 6:45.
The speech will “welcome crowd (and provide) encouragement to celebrate the hard work on the campaign trail … eat, drink, be merry etc.)
At 7pm, the media will arrive and be greeted by campaign adviser Dan Cass.
More canapés will be served at 7:15, while election results are expected to start flowing through at 7:30pm.
A speech will be made at 8pm, as results start to become clearer, before cupcake time at 8:15pm.
One of the highlights of the night will be a speech by leader Greg Barber at 8.20pm.
During this speech, Mr Barber will tell “anecdotes in the best Greg fashion”.
Mr Barber will “discuss how great and amazing Cathy (Oke) has been on the campaign trail”.
Colleen Hartland will speak about “women in politics” from 8.30pm until 9pm, followed by a speech of “reflection and future” by federal MP Adam Bandt.
Between 9 and 10pm, thank you speeches will be made, ahead of a DJ, when “vinyl to be spun to cater for the mood”.
The party is scheduled to end between 1 and 2am.
Some take-outs:
■ The Greens had a catered event for their celebration, something I don’t think I’ve ever seen in elective politics. Not even the Liberals in Higgins before Peter Costello made off with the $1M fundraising account would have paid for caterers to provide canapés and cupcakes for the volunteers. Grog, of course, is a different matter.
■ They clearly thought they’d won and had much to celebrate;
■ They sought to identify, tag and monitor journalists’ presence at the party. At a party? It’s just other-planet stuff. VEXNEWS’ embedded reporters crashed campaign parties of the come-from-nowhere lifelong Liberal David Nolte, who polled extremely well, beating sleazy bankrupt Stephen Mayne, and the Labor one where there were hundreds of exhausted red-T-shirt-wearers looking like they’d picked up a used scratchy ticket and discovered a ten-grand prize. At neither gathering did we have to sign-in, wear a lanyard or even have to pay for a drink. It’s too simplistic to say the Greens are Stalinists but they certainly behave like them, with their control-freakery and their party conferences held in secret.
A FAMOUS VICTORY
So, a victory for Jennifer Kanis, an impressive, intelligent and very locally-connected Labor person.
We thought she deserved a campaign that was much more direct in distinguishing Labor from their Greens party enemies. In my mind, not mentioning the Greens voting with the Liberals to perpetuate drownings at sea was a pretty big failing. The Greens have made a huge mistake on this, and if they don’t bend on it, people will die. Potentially hundreds more this year. Not drawing that to the attention of voters – in a state by-election – was a mistake in my view. Doing so would have been extremely impactful.
But perhaps that’s a difference of opinion we’ll explore without a hangover.
Those involved in helping Jennifer get there have every reason to take a bow. For much of their campaign, they must have reasonably expected not to prevail. But with courage in their hearts, they stuck with it, kept at it, and won. Feeling warm thoughts for inner-city Socialist Left types is surely not a natural VEXNEWS state but we couldn’t be happier for them. Their victory is not just good for their candidate, their party, it’s good for their nation, it’s as important as the conservatives bravely deciding to smash One Nation and destroying them at the ballot box. Comparing the Greens with One Nation isn’t about asserting that they’re racist, we’re not saying that, we are saying they are an extreme-left party that puts its mad ideology ahead of real people. The Greens are mean.
The other winner from yesterday’s festivities and the last month or so was Daniel Andrews, who proved himself a feisty, old-school kick-arse campaigner in a by-election he must have thought he needed like a hole in the head.
And there’s another group who won too.
Proudly anti-Greens patriots from all walks of life who fired up, handing out for candidates who were putting the Greens last or at least behind Labor. A number of them helped David Nolte, who did a great job coming from nowhere and will loom large in the coming Melbourne council elections, while others fired up for the African activist Berhan Ahmed, proving their patriotism, their sense of humour and honour.
Who lost?
THE OKE HAS FALLEN
Obviously Cathy Oke didn’t win. Greens party sources tell VEXNEWS she won’t get a chance to run again, with many of them thinking Rose Iser would have done a much better job tapping into community groups, especially different ethnic groups where Iser’s connections are well-known.
Oke’s lack of self-awareness when saying words like “We’ve run a positive campaign but Labor’s sleazy deal with Family First shows how evil they are” and even planning an afternoon swim during polling day suggests she’s about half as smart as she thinks she is.
Greg Barber and soon-to-be electorally defeated Adam Bandt have egg on their faces too.
UNFIT FOR OFFICE
Bandt said yesterday at a presser at North Melbourne Primary School that Labor is unfit to be the alternative government of Victoria. There were multiple cameras, audio recorders and journalists present.
The bloke who is in a formal arrangement that formed a Labor government in Canberra, says Labor is unfit to govern Victoria. Fair enough, if that’s his view but how does his view sit with those in Labor who think the best to manage the Greens party threat is with kid gloves.
Surely now Labor has woken up to the parasite they’re hosting.
We doubt we’ll ever see again a formal arrangement or coalition between Labor and the Greens party again. Daniel Andrews put them on notice during this campaign – no deals with the Greens. It was an important statement about Labor’s values and also a strong indication it’s learning from its mistakes.
A defeat might have given Labor a sharper shock about what they need to do to defeat the Greens party menace but we think they’ll have learned plenty of lessons from victory too.
And, of course, the last-placed loser is serial pest candidate Stephen Mayne who, once again, got 4% or so of the vote despite getting much more media attention than any of the other candidates who convincingly beat him. He probably got 20-25% of the media coverage of the by-election, even apparently putting out a negative leaflet on himself to gain attention and sympathy.
The attention never translates into support, partly because he has all the personal warmth and appeal of Josef Fritzl. (And yes we did really write that)
Mayne, despite being unemployed, spent thousands of dollars on blue T-shirts (attempting to create the false impression he was a Liberal when in fact he can best described as a psychiatrically-ill, politically confused Greens cheerleader) and printed material, including, in a first surely since student politics, a sh*t-sheet about himself. Mayne’s wife apparently picks up the bills for all this, even working three jobs, sources familiar with the situation tell VEXNEWS although it is not unreasonable to speculate, given the evidence we show below, that the Greens party big-spending campaign may well have participated in a Mayne cash-for-preferences swap, of a kind most would consider to be corrupt, if not a breach of electoral laws.
Mayne has little actual support and this was demonstrated by shenanigans at several booths where it was clear that Mayne had members of the Greens political party or active symps handing out for him. And he pompously speaks of sleazy deals and suggests he’s above it all. He’s barely above a snake’s belly.
We overheard one of Mayne’s little helpers saying rather loudly that he was a “sustainability consultant.” We immediately thought “hello, hello, hello” and attempted to find out the chap’s name for the purposes of our research. He wouldn’t give the name and got extremely hostile when he realised we were taking his pic.
When I – as required by journalistic ethics – introduced myself and my role here at VEXNEWS – he spewed out a burst of vile profanity and seemed to be intimately familiar with where I lived, my past financial history and even appears to have been involved in a profanity-filled hate-website about my good self. Creepy, even by the standards of Mayne.
How weird, I thought, as I’m sure I’d never met the individual, so using the powers of the famed VEXNEWS Investigations Unit and Mossad supplied facial recognition software, we were able to establish the person’s identity as Alexi Lynch, who has indeed appeared at enviro speaking-engagements with the now-failed Greens party candidate Cathy Oke.
Appropriately enough, the seminar was “Top Ten Tips for Obtaining an Environmental Job”. Good luck with that Cathy.
Sources say Lynch is or certainly has previously been a member of the Greens political party and is well-known as a stridently anti-Labor leftist in the not-for-profits in which he grubs around for taxpayer loot. He went to elite private school Wesley College, apparently, equipping him for bullying poll-workers in inner-city electorates. His attempt to give us a shove was good for a laugh, we backed away quickly hoping the angry chap wasn’t some kind of weird martial arts expert – he certainly had anger management issues, which we have chronicled in a delightful series of photographs.
You’ll be hearing a lot more about Alexi Lynch, and the enviro racket “Ironbark Consulting” in which he is involved. We are advised this business is in receipt of substantial sums of ratepayer and taxpayer funds from local and state governments where the principals of the business were previously decision-makers. Ample opportunity for investigation right there.
And while it’s not something we can write about, we’ll also be ensuring his involvement in that hate-site is brought to justice real soon.
MIDDAY UPDATE: There are unconfirmed reports Stephen Mayne, a tall and physically imposing individual had a near-physical, aggressive and unhinged confrontation – possibly constituting an assault – with a young transgendered campaigner who prefers not to be named. Photos have been promised. Developing…
MONDAY UPDATE: Not only did Stephen Mayne have Greens party members handing out HTVs for him, it is now clear he’d not met any of them either. Understandably perhaps unless he knew the aggressive chap, when Mayne heard the name “Alexi Lynch” he figured he must be a she. It’s more commonly a woman’s name, a point we know doubt would have sensitively made to him at the polling place if we’d been aware.
When Mayne sent out his bizarre email missive of self-justification attempting to explain why he’d really won the election, he wrote in relation to Nolte:
Unaware he’d insulted the easily angered sexually ambiguously named Alexi, Mayne quickly corrected the record before the edgy guy visited the Mayne bunker to scissor-kick the 6-foot-something for calling him a girlie-man:
Mayne is a shocking and blatant political fraud of the most brazen kind. Mayne’s use of Greens party members/symps was not restricted to just one polling place either as this tweet exchange makes clear:
UPDATE: Greens party aligned Banyule mayor Tom Melican was sighted by an observant member of the VEXNEWS Investigation Unit wearing a blue-T-shirt, handing out votes for Stephen Mayne.
Puts into perspective, Mayne’s apparently impartial observations about the enviro-loon in the past:
Tom Mellican: hard working independent and two time mayor of Banyule who was comfortably supported by his colleagues to lead council in 2012.
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Stop hitting me Stephen
Lets remember that only 1/3 of enrolled voters wanted the ALP as their first choice 2/3 did not so it not looking to good for the ALP in future election Julia Gillard.
Of the 16 candidates only 5 will get tax payer funding as they got over 4% of the primary vote. Tax payer funding of candidate is not only corrupt it is discriminatory. Tax payer funding of election should be banned.
Perhap Alex Lynch was campaigning but perhaps he was photographed wearing a “borrowed” Mayne T shirt.
There was no deal with family first, just a simple recognition that the greens are our enemy in the inner city. That’s why they were put second last without any deal actually having been done. Mayne and his loser greens need to now be transparent and tell the community what dirty deal they did over Melbourne city council. What a self interested grub Mayne is. Read his report this morning. What a bad sport. This moron thought being a feeder for greens would get liberal votes!
These sort of elections both here and overseas usually see a slump in major party support, and the fact that the libs pulled out explains some of the boosts that small conservative parties got in an area clearly not their turf.
I really thought the Watermelons would have a chance here, I think the ALP bashing them on a federal level might have swung some preferences Labor’s way. Most Greens voters I know tend to not have much of a clue and vote for the happy-clappy image.
Could the Greens have found their natural level of support from which it would be difficult to rise higher?? Seems plausible
Mayne wants mayoralty , and is prepared to cozy up to whatever colour will foster his chances . He is all about Mayne , and what is Mayne about ? Not much.
On yer bike, Oke.
A happy day that Jennifer Kanis won, but a truly piss week campaign by the Hunchback and his crew. When will some have the balls to call these Green scumbags out. They have the most racist policies since One Nation but still think they have some moral high ground. Just sickening.
Wether you hate or love it there is only two things we can be sure of in the state seat of Melbourne. That is Labor won this time, and this is sure to be the last.
Reading Jenny Mikakos’s Saturday evening tweets I can see why once employed Alexander White.
Ted Ballieu wasn’t worried about some by-election north of the Yarra, he was tucked up in bed reading 50 shades of grey.
Did Barber go home with his ‘told in the best Greg style’ anecdotes untold? Perhaps you can prevail upon Mr B to share a few here, Vex. I’m sure they’d be rippingly good yawns – er, yarns.
The hatred towards the Greens is absurd, they are good people not creatures dropped in from outer space.
@Marilyn, lol, great joke!
If they couldn’t win this, they’ll never win
Jack.
Marilyn, come over here and sir in my knee and let me soothe your troubled soul
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A great victory. Well done Jennifer! …and another loss for Mayne. Wonder if he’ll get his deposit back.
The Greens always complain when they loose. This time they’re complaining about Family First preferences. What hypocrisy! What about their deal with ex Lib Stephen Mayne?
Bad sport Greens have not yet conceded…
… Is Baillieu also embarrassed by ALP win. If he ran a candidate and preferenced ALP, he would have had some insurance.
tepehn Mayne can in at the bottom end of expectations in spite the efforts of 774ABC Jon Faine in promoting his candidacy. he was listed as having 4 to 9 % support. We placed him on 7%.
The low voter turn out indicates a drop of 12.5%, mainly LNP voters failed to vote. which also explains the lower than expected vote for Independent Liberal Candidate David Nolte. Nolte’s preferences held ticket by 90%”
If you adjust the comparable TPP to take into account the missing 12.5% with a conservative split of 25/75 to the Breens/ALP the swing away from the ALP was less than 2%. Far less than the average 5% by election swing.
Kanis came in above the expected 32% primary as did the Greens also expected to be on around 32%.
Steven Mayne’s preferences, like that of the Sex Party, did not hold ticket with upto 40% drift.
Contray to Mayne’s false assertion on Jon Faines Programe 774 Melbourne the ALP and the Greens preferences were never redistributed.
The Greens and Mayne’s snip against the Holly Trinity (Family First Austraian Christians and the DLP) indicate that they do not respect their democratic rights to have their vote counted. Both Mayne and the Greens were silent on the host of minor far fetched conspiracy candidates Including the socialst part and the defunct Australian Democrats party
Who were effectively Green/Mayne feeder groups
Under the circumstances Jennifer Kannis Campiagn was testament to the ongoing support Labor has in the inner city electorate. An electorate that has seen considerable changes in demographics and political allegiances. The Liberal Vote has increased from 19% in 2002 to over 27% in 2010.
The Greens will never win a a single member election without the direct Support and preference allocation of the Liberal Party. members of the LNP rightly have expressed concern about the Federal Liberal party’s preference deal in 2010. the decision of the Liberal Party to pace the Greens last in the 2010 State Campiagn delivered the LNP government with a majority in both houses.
Holy shit, this is fantastic Sunday reading. Thanks, Vex.
A winning endorsement for the ALP – NOT. Their lowest Primary vote ever in the seat. Sure looks like the prediction of 15% Primary in the next federal election is a sure bet.
As for Kanis she is an immoral cast greasy dirty Greek.
Oh dear oh dear, I haven’t stopped smilling all day. Not because Labor won the Melbourne by-election, personally I couldn’t care less who won. But the dirty, unwashed, unprincipled, underhanded vile Greens lost. Yes YOU LOST! Never has there been a more disgraceful lot of wacko nutter opportunists, and you didn’t win, despite all of your unwashed supporters predicting a Green win weeks ago.Let me shout it, YOU LOST! Everyone is now laughing at the Greens :)
Oh, and while I laugh at people, let me also kick loony Stephen Mayne while he’s down. Stephen, you disloyal bastard, you were treated like a bloody Prince by the Liberals and shat on them. You are an unstable nutter who specialises in being universally hated by all who know you.
Question : Why do people hate Stephen Mayne before they meet him?
Answer : It saves time!
Green vomit eventually runs down the drain.
Andrew, you were apparently handing out for David Nolte yesterday. Why don’t you just join the Libs, you’d fit right in. And lay off public tenants.
Fish and chips will always win against green slime.
How this can be portrayed as a wonderful Labor victory is outstanding. You are on the way out – especially in the inner cities – it’s a matter of time.
Even Steve Bracks states today in the media very soon the ALP will hold NOTHING apart from a few irrelevant hick local government seats. Hee Hee Hee this is too funny. Soon the unlistenable to will be able to hold their National Conference in a toilet cubicle.
My feeling about the Greens by-election defeat is best summed up by quoting the words of the stunning Aussie swimmer Stephanie Rice “Suck it you fucking [deleted]“.
The level of vitriol on this stream is appalling!! Quit being blind to the fact that the Greens achieved the highest primary vote in Victoria and only 1in 3 voted Labour!
Australians want progressive politics that consider diverse policies including education, environment, transport and housing. These are things we all need to maintain livelihood.
Wake up and realize that the bickering within politics is outdated, its time to get on with implementing good policies, and Cathy Oke, unlike Jennifer Kanis, had comprehensive mandates, strategies and experience to keep Melbourne Livable.
All this dirt being thrown at the campaign party ought to be reconsidered as it was an ‘open’ event, for members and non-members, and in the interest of safety of patrons, guests and the candidate I believe having media ‘lanyards is wise! ‘.
Also I saw all the canapés were supplied by the Asylum Seeker Refugee Centre which is a not for profit that helps the community, and all patrons had to purchase their own drinks at the party!
So get over it, the Greens know how to enjoy themselves win or lose, because they care about the future and good social change and maintainence of australian livelihoods!!
Not just the maintenance of what ‘has been’, like the major parties.
Bandt might do well to take his attention from splitting hairs about primary and preference votes and turn it to the ‘dark matter’ non votes that happened in this election and what it means for him in the federal election. If he and Labor are lucky, the high number non attenders and people who voted informal vote, are just happy little vegemites who couldn’t care if it’s a Green or Liberal elected so didn’t bother putting in this time. They will mobilise at the federal election with the threat of a Abbott government.
Or they are totally disaffected voters who will maintain the snot and boycott the federal election too, so not affect the result other than pull votes previously given.
Or worse they are a snarling, frothing bunch of Abbottites just waiting to release their votes and preferences at the next election so spent their Saturday home festering and biding their time. Time to be worried, very worried.
Andrew, not sure how many election night bashes you’ve been to, but it’s pretty standard for the parties to provide booze and food for volunteers and members (canapes and buffet dinner). When they say “canapes”, don’t think MasterChef – think mini spring rolls, hot dogs, sausage rolls, sushi, pies, etc (although the Greens may have more hippy food than I’ve experienced at a lifetime of ALP election nights). Still, lanyards for the media room? Bizarre. Didn’t even have that in place at Randwick Labor Club for Kenneally, and all you had to do to get in was tell the front desk, “I’m here for the Labor Party function.” Women in politics speech, DJ and cupcakes are a little strange too.
@anon is obviously one of the ‘Convoy of the Incontinent’ who is still wearing the Depend (R) he shat in last week.
How do you know that “long suffering” Mrs Mayne footed the bill for Stephen’s campaign?? It could well have been Stephen’s fees from… http://www.maynereport.com/articles/2009/02/18-1520-7498.html
(Although admittedly in terms of desperation and pathos, this is still not a patch on http://rickynixon.com.au/files/RickyNixonSpeakingFlyer.pdf )
Gloating from the Dastyari, Howes type right wingers confirming why so many cease to support us. We won. We should be gracious about it and promise to listen to the electorate and do better next time. Seriously the greens are not the problem. Just look at all the nonsense that political genius Tony Sheldon delivered last week. An open message to the ALP Right. Shut the f@#k up!You have done the ALP great damage and if you keep going the Greens will probably get the opportunity to make all your nightmares come true.
The Greens can only win seats with Liberal Party preferences. Stephen Mayne does not match up.
The Reens lost was significant.
In 2010 the Greens secured over 11,750 votes in Melbourne state seat. last Saturday they received less than 10,000 votes. The sGreens were the ony party motivate to turn out and vote.
The missing 12.5 % was mainly LNP voters. Who made up the 27% vote in 2010.
we predicted the ALP would have a primary vote of 32% and a wining 2pp vote of 52%. Our assessment proved correct. had the missing 12.5% votes that margin would have increased to over 54%
The Greens made a big strategic mistake running hard for the lower house seat. they should concentrate on the Senate and Upperhouse votes.
Gillard should resubmit the Oakeshott Migration Refugee bill and if rejected use this as a trigger for a double dissolution at the next election.
The Greens at a half Senate election would secure two Sente seats in Victoria at a full Senate election they would only secure one.
Greens Sdam Brant was elected on the back of LNP preferneces in Melbourne.
The fall out against the LNP for directing preferences to the Greens was significant and they will not make that mistake again.
Adam Brant will be a one term wondr. He is already seeking Senate endorsement but the factions within the Greens have said no.
The Grens are not a democratic organisation and their internal structure decision making is not open to public or media review. The Media will begin to question and subject the Greens to a greater level of public scrutiny. There secret meetings and internal power structure will be their undoing. the ALP will no longer support them in a prefernce deal and their overall vote will begin to slump. Their open door policy and support for people smugglers is a perfect example as to why the Greens are in decline
The Greens, nature’s cruellest mistake.
Hi Andrew, I was the guy handing out htvs for Kate Borland at Errol St Primary School, we discussed childcare and you lent my son your ipod charger. Sweet of you, I liked you.
But I wasn’t greatly impressed with the conflict with the Mayne guy you report on above…..nor is your report an honest one. You were handing out htvs for David Nolte , “vote for a Liberal’ you said. You represented yourself to me as a Liberal…..but really you are more of Labor Right man, yes? The altercation with the Mayne man began when he saw an obnoxious ALP goon helping you hand out Nolte htvs; he said you elbowed him (I believe him but it may have been an accident)and a shouting match began in front of the poll booth gates where voters had to pass, both of you filming each other on your iphones. In some ways it looked pretty funny.
But look, you were handing out htvs for a Liberal? Anyone could see how thick you were with the ALP and now the situation clarifies a bit. Exactly how many of David Nolte’s workers were stooges from the ALP Right like you? What else did the ALP do for David Nolte’s Liberal campaign? Why did you pretend in your article above that you were there as a journalist rather than Nolte’s campaign worker?
ANDREW LANDERYOU: Good on you Jeremy, I liked you too. VEX’s many tweets throughout Saturday made it very clear we were in the polling place as an embedded reporter (indeed VEX supplied several embedded reporters to the patriotic cause on the day, that’s how we roll), something we have done before on behalf of anti-Greens candidates of all stripes. If they put the Greens last or near enough, then we’ll give them every consideration and help how we can.
As is well-known to VEXNEWS readers, yes I was once in the ALP (shock horror, in its dreaded Right faction that is controlled by Darth Vader or Dracula) but haven’t been a party or faction member of any kind for many years now, as a journalist, I don’t think it’s appropriate to be an active (or even inactive) political party member, so I’m not.
I certainly did not represent myself to you (or anyone else) as a Liberal, I’m probably mostly considered to be a centrist or even a conservative although I try not to let that get in the way of reporting the news. Some might disagree. I also presumed that you knew who I was as it seemed the Greens comrades and their running mates had received txt-ed warnings from their High Command that an Enemy of Gaia was in their midst. I should have been polite and introduced myself. So I think we both made incorrect assumptions.
I wore my favourite President Ronald Reagan Presidential Library blue jumper to keep out the cold but those who think he was a liberal don’t understand American politics very well. My two dogs are named Ronnie and Nancy-Jane. I hope you now have an insight into the rich diversity of my views. Ronald Reagan was a conservative but also a very, very effective union official as President of the Screen Actors Guild, he secured the first minimum wage for actors in Hollywood while simultaneously fighting communists in Hollywood. Yes, I’m a fan.
You asked me about decorating polling places and I said I had a long history of putting up material for many candidates and you asked whether for Liberals and I said various, which is perfectly true. I love an election, and have been involved in far too many from my Uni days onwards, for and with Liberals, Labor people and independents of all kinds.
When handing out for David Nolte, a very nice fellow I have to come to really admire, who just happened to be putting Greens last, I encouraged Liberal voters to vote for him by saying ‘vote for a liberal’ and then explained to anyone inquiring that while Nolte wasn’t endorsed, he was a life-long 30 year Liberal party member which seemed to impress most of them. Lengthy party membership impresses me too, it shows a deep commitment to the values he publicly identified with.
The ALP candidate Jennifer Kanis is an impressive and intelligent person but I think hails from Labor’s Left so to the extent that my previous (now nearly ten years since I was involved in the ALP) involvement with the dreaded Labor Right is an issue, I don’t really think it’s fair for my reporting and involvement in helping David Nolte to be characterised as some sort of Labor Right plot or conspiracy.
Only nasty, jealous, bitter, wounded conspiracy theorists like Stephen Mayne are bleating about that, and I think any doubt about his mendacity has been removed today by his disgusting performance on Twitter today. He’s a very angry, f*cked up guy. He’s a political fraud and moral bankrupt who has spent time behind bars. He is a bully used to getting the last word, his ways don’t work with me.
So when I overheard one of his blue-shirts saying he was a “sustainability consultant” I smelt a rat straight away and as our investigation above reveals, my suspicion was confirmed.
As for Alexi Lynch’s claims, they were as ridiculous and deceitful as the faux Liberal blue-shirt he wore, if I’d done as he says you would have seen the entire thing as you were gamely standing beside me at all material times. Looking on was another VEX patriot, who witnessed the entire interaction. Because I inquired about his identity and party affiliation, he tried to have a shove at me and embarrassed himself. It was a golden moment in sport.
So let’s keep it real. It was clear to everyone Alexi Lynch was a deranged and hateful maniac, who seemed uncomfortably familiar with my personal history (including where I lived and my finances!) and a hate-site that will be brought to justice soon. You spinning for Alexi Lynch is generous to a fellow-traveller but isn’t correct. I just happened to stumble on a Greens party goon, with quite an unnatural interest in yours truly. I told him, and I repeat it here, that he’d come to regret the way he acted and I’m sure that will be true from what we’ve already discovered even at this early stage. We won’t be cowered by ultra-leftist bullies. Or any bully. And if that looks a bit indelicate at times, that’s the price we pay for standing up.
And also, I would put it to you, that you were handing out for a candidate who no doubt had a legitimate view to put across about important issues but was seen by most as a preference feeder to the extreme-left Greens political party, a fact confirmed by the ticket your candidate registered with the Victorian Electoral Commission.
Notwithstanding all that, it was nice to meet you and your boy, good luck in all things except on election day…
Andrew Landeryou – Aussie Patriot!
Could not quite get thru ur rant…(though it does have shades of your original craziness when you led this fair nation and started blogging away your sorrows).
Please tell us more about stephen mayne’s time behind bars….
were these mars bars of the brunswick street kind…
Is the ALP leader in Victoria (whats his name) the partner of Greek sheila or is her child just illegitimate?
Or gee YUK who was that sicko that sent me the ‘up skirter’ of Inga?
Read crikey. Makesyousick the self congrats giles and crook go on with. They should take hand off cock. Gilles wanted to cuddle the greens instead of attacking them. Fuckin surrender monkeys
We won on preference deals that got us over the line. You lefties have surrendered the inner city to the greens. Get off your bum and re engage the community. Yous treat the inner city like safe seats and do little to engage the community. The right understand where the majority of our voters are. Not in the innder city, the indulgent class. Yous don’t
Doesn’t matter how much Mr Zero Personality Coke Bottle Glasses wants to spin it, the ALP got their lowest Primary vote ever in this seat. What does that tell you? Next federal election they will be lucky to hold Party status.
“Mossad supplied facial recognition software”
Gold!
I’m a great believer in reason Andrew, so I’m gong to offer you a reality check here on a couple of points.
Your “investigations” have actually not disclosed anything derogatory about the Mayne guy. [ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: Keep reading, we've got a mountain of stuff on Ironbark Sustainability already and we'll be rolling it out like tanks liberating Kuwait, aside from already proving beyond doubt that 1) Mayne didn't know him, 2) He had been campaigning for Oke and 3) He is intimately involved in Greensparty front-groups] You certainly haven’t established that he was working for the Greens; and if he was it would require a remarkable degree of shamelessness on your part to make something of that. And he was in no way behaving obnoxiously. The only person who had been behaving obnoxiously before your hassle with him was the ALP who the Mayne saw handing out your Nolte leaflets. [ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: The photographs of his aggressive behaviour we've already published make the case pretty clearly. Witnesses confirm this too.]
Stephen Mayne is pro-capitalist so I suppose he is as entitled to wear a blue T-shirt as any other money boy; even if one accepts the odd theory that political colour-coding is mandatory.
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: Mayne's a pro-Greensparty preference feeder, that's the truth of his now reasonably consistently expressed views, who is obsessed with pokies, or at least says he is because it gets him quoted. His views are confused but they are certainly not pro-capitalist. Indeed, given his tendency to pay under-award or zero-wages to those involved in Crikey in its early days, he might be best described as a feudalist]
The Greens are also a pro-capitalist party so can hardly be called “extreme left”. A few watermelons belong to it but anyone can see they do not dominate (unfortunately).
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: Ah, you're to the Greens party's left, fair enough. Your position makes a bit more sense now]
Calling Jennifer Kanis “left” is also an odd use of words, in the bizarre world of the modern ALP she may count as such but she is on the board of the predatory Housing Choices Australia for heavens sake. (So even if we of the housing campaign were inclined to preference the ALP we could hardly have preferenced this particular ALP candidate.)
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: Jennifer is in Labor's Left, an undisputed fact. Don't know anything about Housing Choices Australia but I very much doubt she'd be involved with a "predatory" organisation of any kind unless you count the Melbourne City Council or the Flemington-Kensington Bowls Club]
Whatever the Save Public Housing Campaign may be “seen as” in the squalid fuming caverns of the far right, Andrew, it has no integral association with the Greens. Of course we wanted a Greens victory in this election, and faithful to our practice of openness our htv made this clear. This is because the ALP favours handing over large amounts of public housing to the private housing associations such as Jennifer Kanis’ Housing Choices, while at the moment the Greens in Victoria do not. The Greens organized a rally against the privatization of public housing which we supported….the issues matter you see Andrew, I know for you old warriors of the ALP right that is hard to get your mind around. It is the stupid arrogance of the ALP that they think that the working class is morally bound to support them whatever they do, even unto sacrificing our first born children. Well, screw that.
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: You talk a great game Jeremy. And I'm sorry to tell it how it is but weren't you standing near Richard Wynne, a former Housing minister who actually championed and delivered lots of new inner-city public housing and an enormous renovation programme? I know the many of the flats well from many past interactions and know there's been substantial improvement.I don't agree with Richard about everything but you can't help but admire his enthusiasm for public housing and his life-long commitment to it, expressed not just through words but through actually delivering it. He'll be appalled to be flattered on VEX but if there's an example of the difference between lip-service and delivery, it's comparing Greens loudmouths with someone like Richard (and Brownyn Pike too) who fought for an enormous amount of extra funding for public housing, got it and made a real difference. For loudmouths to criticise their commitment to it does rather cheap, petty and vile.]
Speaking of which you really do fall into place as a member of the ALP Right. You may no longer have any organizational connection with them but I don’t think you have left them behind. You were obviously very thick with the ALP at the booth.
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: They might have thought I was "thick" with you. Or indeed a Liberal, as you initially claimed I had held myself out as being. I try to be polite when I can, as I think you saw. But when trying to get to the truth of reporting news, sometimes you have to be a bit direct and I make no apology for that. When I heard the words "sustainability consultant" I knew exactly what was going on and our research has established the truth now beyond doubt.]
Your assumption that we housing activists are part of the Greens grapevine suggests that you place an unhealthy credence in ALP lies. Didn’t the Ahmed embarrassment warn you about that?
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: I think any self-appointed public housing activists who think the ALP (or the Liberal party for that matter) is their enemy are playing an ideological game and not actually championing the cause they purport to hold dear. Grow up, comrades, and fight for outcomes not the Gaian/Marxist revolution that I promise you will never come. Making sure people having access to shelter is too important to make it a political football.]
Ronald Reagan btw was a mediocre actor who sank to the level of glove puppet as president. He was involved one interesting movie, the pro-slavery _Santa Fe Trail_ where he played the young Custer very unconvincingly as a clown. OK, that wasn’t very relevant but then neither was your reference to Reagan in the first place…..
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: Fighting words indeed. A great actor, maybe the best post-war President, a brilliant unionist. And he's very relevant to the point I made that your conspiracy theorist assertion about what I believe and who I am is just that. Ask around, I'm complicated.
Well enough of this; thank you for your good wishes saving politics and I reciprocate with the all purpose blessing and curse "may you grow in wisdom".
[ANDREW LANDERYOU - EDITOR VEXNEWS: I'll remember that one and will re-use without attribution]
Hey Reggie, put a sock in it.
For once :-)
Ah, clueless on housing policy. No great surprise; all this gossip-mongering must keep you too busy to get your mind around policy much.
So, focussing on personalities here:
Richard Wynne is of course a good man, I hope we can work with him on a minimal program of stopping the rent rises and evictions the Liberals are planning in Victoria. But his party not just in Victoria but federally is dedicated to handing public housing over to the housing associations, which is to say ultimately to the developers….Such as Asley Fenn who runs Ethan Housing which is making a killing from the NRAS scheme. You probably haven’t heard of that either.
I agree with you that making sure that people have access to shelter is too important to be made a political football. So lets not. The ALP policy is to support “social” housing which is a code-word for handing over public housing (and directing public money) to the housing associations. The housing associations began as charities but the big ones have become corporatized as the developers gathered round the smell of money like sharks around blood. The board of Housing Choices for example is dominated by money with a few people like Jennifer Kanis for window dressing. They have their eyes on the working class who once would have been able to own their homes but are increasingly locked out of the market. Instead in the brave new world they can be life-long tenants of Housing Choices and be expected to be grateful for the privilege.
[VEXNEWS: You're entitled to your view that NGO not-for-profits aren't entitled to operate in the social housing space, we strongly disagree with you about that. The state - and its bureaucracies - rarely have all the answers, so while I know nothing of Housing Choices, it sounds like a perfectly respectable idea if it's helping people. You're right, I'm not an expert but I don't need to be to know that pure statism very rarely works. I'm interested in solutions for real people not ideological indulgence to make the far-left political elite feel spiritually cleansed. And if there are deals to be done with private money, they ought be eyes-wide-open ones, that's fair enough.]
It is interesting how the far right have taken up the cry “conspiracy theory” to delegitimise statements of the bleeding obvious. Such as for example that the ALP was fostering the Nolte campaign… [VEXNEWS: So our proof that the Greens were helping Mayne doesn't convince you or doesn't matter but your completely unsupported assertion about Nolte is 'bleeding obvious' Get a grip.]
Anyway, fun though this is, the real world calls. I like Cheap Petty and Vile, it sounds like a firm of lawyers. I will use it and alwys remember to attribute it……
Is it true that [deleted] funds Vexnews? [VEXNEWS: Oh puh-lease, Jeremy, if you keep listening to Stephen Mayne wank, you will go blind. No one 'funds' VEXNEWS other than advertisers, who have included the Greens party(!) during the last election, and many of Australia's largest companies. We think we have amply demonstrated our independence from them] Find a better use for your talents, Andrew, I doubt you are all that complicated, just a bit lost….. [VEXNEWS: Like Tim Holding, I maintain that being lost is very much in the eye of the beholder. I hope you, like Tim and I, carry a GPS device with you at all times.]
We will probably meet again now that I’m engaging with the political circus……
I was at North Melbourne Primary too, handing out for David Nolte.
I am not a member of the ALP and was happy to hand out for any friend of Andrew’s.
I saw some of what that Alexi Lynch got up to and he was clearly very rattled and very angry that Andrew had figured out he was a Green. He was very physically aggressive and was heard boasting about his martial arts prowess.
The fact that Andrew figured out who he was is a great credit to his investigative skill. I don’t know how he does it but I’m very glad he does do it. We need him on that wall.
I handed out at two booths and I thought all were petty friendly with each other except Stephen Mayne. His support base was the most aggressive and abusive.
it was clear that he was tryingtoprotray himself to voters as being the alternative Liberal vpcandidate, far from the truth, he was hoping to pickup the 28% of LNP supporters.
The ABC was plugging Mayne in every bulletin, he was the most interiewed candidate. His low polling was a resident to the resilience of the electorate. It was clear that Mayne was there to feed votes to the Green Party. I am told he has cut a deal with the Greens to secure their support in the City of Melbourne Council elections. 4% is not enought to even get elected to the City Council. he is best sticking to his home base in Templestow.
Shit!
No LNP preferences next election!
I’m screwed.
Yes and you Adam Ant will have to preference the ALP which will help them get elected this time with a huge swing if the Liberals stand a candidiate.
Andrew – here is something to investigate. “Moscow” Mary De La Hunty is standing in Camden Ward in the council elections (Letter, Port Phillip Leader, 24 Jul 12). I assume its in Glen Eira or Bayside council as it not in Port Phillip.
When “Moscow” left the Victoria Parliament (former Arty Farty Minister in the Bracks and Brumby Governments) she got a normal pension plus an addition pension because she could not work I understand. I assume that this is on top of her ABC TV pension.
Since then she has set up a writers commune on her country property, been made chairman of a federal funded writers organisation, is chairman of Reclink (see latest Danby newsletter) and now a campaigning candidate.
All this is work, paid or unpaid, so is “Moscow” still getting the additional pension because she cant work?
Maybe Jamie Rudd could join the Greens . They seem to accept all sorts of retards, bookish nerds and socially inept wankers so he will fit right in. If Jamie is honest with himself. He will know that the ALP will never offer him anything other than an unwinnable spot on an upper house ticket. I mean they may be low but even the ALP has some standards. The Greens on the other hand? Jamie’s Sunbury based socialist workers paradise may still be achievable. Certainly he couldn’t do any worse than the bloated Gothapotamus that ran in Sunbury last time for the Greens. Give Greg Barber a call Jamie. I know you have his number. Or maybe you could stand for Hume council on a novel platform of pledging never to drink and drive. That will set you apart from some of the current breed.
Andrew – why is my comment of 22 Jul 12 still with the moderator?
Mayne’s preferences did not hold. With over 40% of his primary vote do following ticket. A net positive to the Greens tally being less than 15% of Maynes vote. He certainly did not deliver the bonus winning margin that the Greens hoped for.
A quick analysis of his vote indicate he would fall far short of the 10% Quota required should he stand for the City of Melbourne muniicipal elections in October. At best he would receive around 30% (3%). the City of Melbourne constituents being much wider sprees than the Melbourne State Seat.
Adam Brandt has been reported as seeking to shift to the safe harbour of the Senate where the Greens in a half senate Elction should win a seat in Victoria. Howvere it seems his own party has rejected that idea and he will have to defend his losing position in Melbourne. without Liberal Party preferences Brandt will be a one term candidate. He will not get a pension. Maybe he can run for the State Upperhouse Northern Metro seat?
I went overseas and have not heard what happened to her? Is she well?
Despite the emotionally charged language of Bandt and Vexnews – the voters were apathetic in the by election.
The Labor Party must be admired for stiching up Sex Party prerefences and the African Leaders preferences and getting a late bounce back from core voters.
I hope Labor does deliver to both the sex party in the Senate and to the local African community. No point ratting on people who deliver.
Most of the national debate about Labor and Greens was beside the point.
The Greens have been the anti politics party for sometime – but Bandt’s rants are showing they are as self obsessed as the worst of the right wing Labor bully boys.
IS Bronwyn Pike well? God yes. The opportunistic old bitch decided she was too good for the backbench, and decided to up and leave. Consider how much money Labor spent defending her at the last state election from the green filth, and she does that to them.And lets be honest, its a seat which Labor could have easily lost! What an appalling bitch.
re What the ? Gather Bronny is sunning herself in Europe or somewhere nice & not in cold Melbourne
I remember Bronwyn Pikes letters to the press before she was elected to the state parliament. She was an bible basher from the Uniting Church raving on about social justice I seen to remember.
All the old fellas had left office, so Bronny had no more old soft knobs to polish.
James McGrath is a political genius. That’s why he had me as a referee.
That Mal Brough – He’s useless. Useless. What’s he ever achieved anyway?
Jamie Rudd = opportunistic chancer =potential green slime
Hey!! … what about the Libs, they got 0.00% of the vote.
Rumour is The Greens are wooing Dean Mighell back into the fold. Mighell’s been taking heat by the union movement for supporting Katters anti-gay position which is killing his fragile ego so he’s looking for a new home for His members money.Bant has keep in good terms with him while most of the Greens can’t stand Mighell but they all really love the ETU $.
I will roll Dooby Duncan in Macedon and take my rightful place at Dan the man with a plan’s feet
Need to know who to put last again.
If anyone should be moved on at the next election I would place Don Nadella at the head of the list. Time to preselect new blood. Nadella is past his use by date as is Daniel Green
If they are not on the front bench, in a safe set and have their pension they should justify their endorsement or be replaced.
Interesting to read Swan’s defence of independent journalism in the face of mining baron.
Good to see some parts of Labor’s right support basic democratic freedoms in a civil society.
Other ‘patriotic’ parts of this Labor ‘family’ seem to relish the idea of less media diversity in Australia.
In their perverse view having less media diversity than China would be some kind of best practice world first.
It is a world first a democracy should not want to win.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/swan-pits-the-boss-against-the-bosses-20120731-23dbx.html
Despite the preference win in Melbourne. Labor needs to lift primary vote in many eastern and south eastern seats to win state poll in 2014.
Unless ofcourse Labor is keen to run strong campaigns for Sex Party candidates in about a dozen seats.
That would easily compensate for any state wide drop in Labor Primary vote and with a swing to sate Labor in 2014 Sex Party Prefences would easily be enough to win 6 or 7 seats back.
Once the public vent on Federal Labor and kick them out in 2013 – Daniel Andrews can expect the current Labor state primary woes to ease a lot and may see a sizable swing to Labor.
Do nothing Ted is looking like a one term Premier.
Labor’s hit list
Thanks for your imput Justin. Funny Don speaks highly of you.
Knew Carr and some large land owners were keen to move on Don – but has Daniel Green fallen foul of the Conroy right?
Faction bosses and Carlton Crew Union bosses have tried to move against Don in the past.
They failed then. Do they have the local numbers this time?
They may find locals think differently to those in Wally Palace, Carlton.
Don a metal worker by trade and down to earth Labor man may be harder to move than Scott and Mamarella think.
They can offer him a trustee spot on the tiny Meat workers super fund, through in chair of Incolink but me thinks CFMEU will keep Boyd on that cash cow.
NUW super fund is already full of failed senate and state seat battles so not much room there.
And do the NUW have a cadidate that can win a vote in Yan yean anyway.
Melton has a way of doing things its own way – remember the unstoppable Shorten gave the seat a bypass?
Perhaps in the Greens honour to recognise their outstanding effort in smearing the Labor party for getting family first preferences, while ignoring the Liberal preferences that gave Bandt victory, we can institute a new drinking game.
You only get a drink if you can complete the sentence “it’s not okay if you do it, but it’s different when we do it because…..”
A few suggestions would be “Because we have more highly developed moral compasses and know whats wrong and know whats right”.
Or being creative and denying when caught red-handed that you are doing it, like “but I wasn’t doing it, me in the Nazi uniform with the riding crop and my scantily dressed friends over there were just rehearsing for a up-coming artistic event”.
As the night goes on, more complicated explanations can be accepted. Instant exclusion from the next round if you actually say, alright fair cop, one set of standards for us, and one set of standards for the rest of the world is a bit ripe.
Oh and one more personal favourite, “I’m not ignoring my partners rights to have safe s#x, I didn’t do it, it was a honey trap along, and the CIA are after me”.
Blaming ASIO is also perfectly acceptable. Enjoy drinkers.
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