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IT’S TIME: Labor needs to take out its Green trash before it’s too late

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PM Gillard’s government has done some good things. It’s got very little credit for any of it because of the perception they are being led by the nose by an extremist and ultra-cynical Left-wing party with one lower house MP that represents the views of an inner-city elite. Nick Mack argues that Julia Gillard – not Kevin Rudd – is ideally placed to take the Greens on and that she should before the parasite destroys its Prime Ministerial host.

When is ‘War, War’ better than ‘Jaw, Jaw’?

Answer: When the Australian Greens’ political intransigence has one sole object – the destruction of the Australian Labor Party for electoral advantage.

The Greens are Australia’s greatest parasitical political movements who have thrived artificially by a soft-headed and soft-hearted view that they were natural allies in bleeding votes from the Liberals to Labor endorsed candidates.
It is important to remember here that Labor does not desire as an acrimonious divorce for its long-term health.

What is called for is a dirty guerrilla warfare at every level that would embarrass the Algerians FLN or would make the VietCong blush.

The fellow travellers in the labour movement, in the ACTU and in those inner city branches who have continue to argue for the Greens should not be put last on the ballot papers, should now be given the option. It needs fight them in the municipalities and on the university campuses.

The Australian Labor Party has for too long accepted that the Greens’ premise that it is a purist party with some kind of monopoly on compassion and environmental credentials and a range of social views.

That has been a dangerous and counter productive assumption. It is a silly bourgeois party overwhelmed by the silliest of bourgeois ideas peddled by crypto-Marxists like Adam Bandt and Lee Rhiannon.

The Greens have no demonstrable compassion when it perverts Australia’s protection obligations under the UN Convention on the Status of Refugees into a pro-drowning bottom of the Indian Ocean reality. Indeed, the revelations in the Daily Telegraph that Greens hoped refugees would stay in the news (i.e. keep drowning) so they could use the publicity as a recruiting tool says much about their vile cynicism and opportunism. It is no exaggeration to say that while electorally successful, they are not a legitimate part of politics, any more than One Nation was. The conservatives initially struggled with the serious competitive threat they represented until, led by people like Tony Abbott, there was a firm decision to take out the trash. In the seat of Oxley, once won by One Nation’s Hanson, the Liberal National Party candidate for the next election is Andrew Nguyen. Enough said. All conservatives have reason to be proud of this, just as every Labor person has reason to worry that about the consequences of their failure to speak truth to the Greens power.

There is so much nonsense said by imbeciles posing as human rights advocates. Last year, Pamela Curr calls current detention policies as ‘Labor’s brutal legacy’ because nine detainees committed suicide and nine died in detention.
David Marr and Tony Kevin keep peddling conspiracy theories of wilful negligence on the part of politicians and more shamefully, the Royal Australian Navy, about every boat that goes undetected in Indonesia waters.

(The Greens) never ever shed a tear that was not shed by a crocodile first.

They never ever shed a tear that was not shed by a crocodile first. The Australian Greens and the leftoid supporters like David Marr, Toney Kevin and Pamela Curr are dripping with the blood of 800 asylum seekers and then have the temerity to call it a fashionable shade of rouge at dinner parties.

The Labor Party has proved itself grown-up enough to admit policy failure and to accept offshore processing. They accept Howard’s policies work and know that lines like temporary protection visas didn’t work are intellectually unsustainable and shallow. For all its shortcomings, it remains a mainstream Party where sense can overcome sensibility.

Only Clive Palmer’s policy of one-way tickets to Australia is logically compassionate and logically consistent because his suggestion does not kill en masse. Palmer overshadows Christine ‘glug-glug-glug-just-another-wet-refugee’ Milne in more than one way.

The Greens and the Australian Left do not accept failure because the genuine interest of refugees is not their interest.

It is more important for them to pervert the suffering of refugees into some puerile debate about racism and xenophobia as if we are listening to Year 10 debating competition between the Methodist Ladies College and Loreto.

Maintaining that position of school ma’am writ large in Australia culture is more important than saving lives.

This is also true about the environment. The Labor Party has to stop apologising for not being as green as the Greens. The public want balance and they want sustainable development. They want to know power stations are working and are affordable. They are not anti-mining, anti-logging or even anti-dams. They want balance – a mainstream view if there was even one.

Many on the left see the Greens as a vehicle for social engineering and for creating a social order where they prosper through quangos and green-washed government contracts while the blue collar and rural communities are progressively marginalised.

This is not an extremist agenda – it is an evil agenda.

I do not share the view that the Gillard Government is the worst.

The Rudd Government holds that trophy. It was Rudd who really indulged the Australia left with fantasy of standing up to big business, dismantling border protection policies and championing climate change as the greatest moral challenge of generation. Rudd was as erratic as Billy McMahon and almost as electorally unsuccessful as James Scullin.

Gillard was foolish to enter into a formal alliance with the Greens. It was unnecessary. What would be even more foolish is to maintain it, even in the face of the Greens politically cynical and literally lethal policies. Gillard owes Windsor and Oakeshott and occasionally Wilkie. She owes the Greens and Adam Bandt, who denied her party a crucial vote, nothing.

Gillard has achieved more balance than Rudd’s record and has done within Labor’s traditional ‘civilising capitalism’ paradigm.

So it is disturbing to see the ALP-Green rift as a stalking horse for Rudd. This is ill-advised as Australia’s infatuation with Rudd won’t survive Brian Loughane’s vast archive of Labor’s anti-Rudd statements or even a cursory review of his government by snafu.

However Rudd’s caucus resurgence should create a greater urgency in the PMO to tear up the PM’s agreement with Greens as soon as possible post haste.

Gillard should beginning with the dissolution of the Cabinet Sub Committee with the Greens now.

Second, she left Abbott have his way with the boat people issue and create bipartisanship with offshore processing on Manus Island in PNG.

These would suck oxygen out of Abbott’s campaign and demonstrate good faith with mainstream community attitudes and maybe even kill the momentum with NSW Right’s flirtation with Rudd.

Bring it on, Julia – dump the Greens and declare, respectfully, a dirty war! You may not win the election but the Party will survive in the medium to long term.

The future of social democracy in Australia needs you!

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  1. Worst article ever written.

    Posted by Sean | July 12, 2012, 6:52
  2. change the name ALP to INC-est

    Posted by people power | July 12, 2012, 8:36
  3. Vexnews maintaining the rage! Excellent!

    Posted by Indeed | July 12, 2012, 9:34
  4. What a silly article. The agenda of the Labor Right is to smear the Left policies by somehow linking the Greens with the prgressive side of the Labor Party. Labor cannot reclaim those voters who actually care about the future by competing with Abbott’s dry Right. Labor should establish that it is the party of commitment and ideas and the doctor’s wives with the loyalty of flies that make up the Green’s base offer no solutions.
    For Vexnews to push the rubbish of this article undermines much of the honest news and views it usually contains. One thing it did get right, Julia Gillard is the only person able to lead Labor out of the mess Howes, Dastyari and their forefathers created.

    Posted by Rivoboy | July 12, 2012, 9:41
  5. It’s too late for Labor. Humbled in New South Wales, demolished in Queensland. In Western Australia the ALP cancelled a state conference rather than invite Jooolya across the Nullarbor. Mark McGowan has also advised the PM that she needn’t campaign in WA for the upcoming state election.
    The Greens will survive as the party of the hard left. The ALP is destined for the rubbish heap.

    Posted by Gregoryno6 | July 12, 2012, 9:52
  6. Greens cyber army feeling v guilty for the bloody mess it loves to champion

    Posted by Indeed | July 12, 2012, 9:58
  7. sheesh, this website is going down hill. Resorting to name calling. Classy. Care to elaborate exactly how and why the greens are extremists? Which policies are ‘extremist’?

    just because they have the courage of their convictions and don’t flipflop around like the liblabs.

    Social democracy is the future. Liblab rightwing corporate fascism has been found out…the trickle down theory is sham.

    Posted by wm | July 12, 2012, 10:53
  8. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

    Posted by well well well | July 12, 2012, 11:17
  9. Greens are loons.

    They want to close zoos.

    Burn the IMF, they say and the WTO.

    Their Di Natale is quietly pushing to legalize heroin.

    They want the indigenous dependent on handouts with no access to real jobs and a real future.

    Their version of compassion for asylum seekers has hundreds drowning at sea.

    Their party conferences are held in secret unlike every other party.

    Their parliamentary leadership contests occur with all the openness and transparency of the Brezhnev.

    They are extremists of the scariest kind.

    Posted by Absolutists | July 12, 2012, 11:55
  10. ALP 15% primary vote in the next federal election.

    Posted by anon | July 12, 2012, 13:19
  11. Not that I care, but Gillard will be remembered as the worst PM ever she knifed a successful PM one that led the country through GFC and then led the ALP to electoral oblivion and opposition for 10 + years

    Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012, 13:33
  12. Soon the ALP will not hold office in any state, territory or the commonwealth.

    Posted by anon | July 12, 2012, 13:50
  13. The Greens will win Melbourne and Kanis can go back to serving fish and chips in her parent’s shop.

    Posted by anon | July 12, 2012, 13:51
  14. I’m an ALP, Greens and Lib-Nat supporter. Does that make me a slut?

    Posted by Sarah Lockhart Myles | July 12, 2012, 14:51
  15. The most sense I have read in a very long time

    Posted by Mark Smith | July 12, 2012, 16:06
  16. Gurgling reffos are good for membership drives.

    Posted by Sarah Hyphen-Young | July 12, 2012, 16:52
  17. Confected outrage from NSW Right.
    Let’s see the colour of ALP money here.
    Granted, the Altona Droner has painted herself into a corner on Futile Air Tax and is unlikely to drop that.
    However, why not waddle down to Christine’s office and tell the Taswegian oxygen thief …. “You know that $10 bn of Green programmes in the budget? Well, sign up to offshore processing or I will kill one programme a day until you do.
    Word o’ the Day today Chrissy …. CONSEQUENCES”

    Posted by Toad of Toad Hall | July 12, 2012, 16:57
  18. The Greens are constantly crapping on about “peak-Oil” etc.

    I think we have seen “Peak-Green”

    Posted by Toad of Toad Hall | July 12, 2012, 16:58
  19. The good thing about Green trash is that it can be recycled into usable compost to nurture nature. Just needs shredding, introduction into a compost bin, and the addition of a few worms. Wait 6 months and you find that you have turned a whole lot of rubbish into excellent fertiliser!

    Posted by deknarf | July 12, 2012, 17:22
  20. Sorry, but it is to late.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | July 12, 2012, 19:18
  21. Greens Extreme Left ??

    All the Greens I know would shit themselves if their middle class life style was interrupted. They do not care one bit about workers and their climate change rhetoric is bunk, as they all use more resources than any leftie, as we can’t afford the power bills.

    It is easy being Green as no-one holds them to account.

    Go Julia !!!

    Posted by Digger | July 12, 2012, 19:45
  22. Stringing together numerous and distinct sub-groups in various broader demographic types is the difficult game typically played to win an election.
    Unfortunately, the current government is forced to deal with stringing together 2 X groups in Club Feb to maintain office…for now.
    This strategy, however, is ROOTING the narrative of what the ALP is about…thanks Paul!
    The Greens are a ginger group and will never hold government at any level as a majority.
    The key is to pragmatically subsume their message into a broader platform for the centre.
    This was once the speciality of the NSW Right. This skill appears to have been lost.
    Frankly, I’m not sure the current leadership of the ALP actually believes in anything.
    Think back 30 years to those you
    alternatively hated or loved – Whitlam, Hawke, Keating, Wran, Dunstan, Burke etc…
    AT LEAST THEY KNEW WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THEIR VALUES WERE!!!
    How else do you explain ongoing polls that indicate that a moral primitive like Abbott is likely to become PM?

    Posted by Ring of Truth | July 12, 2012, 20:27
  23. Imagine how you feel when your son is a serving member of the ADF. Your child’s life is in the hands of these cretins!

    Posted by Patriot Parent | July 12, 2012, 20:36
  24. I’ll take this opportunity to admit that everything I have earlier stated is wrong.

    Posted by anon | July 12, 2012, 20:56
  25. Can’t wait for the Libs to get in and fix everything. You can see that their front bench is a talent pool of immense breadth and depth. Not to mention the factional fun we will all get to witness.

    Posted by Still Sucking Squirt | July 12, 2012, 21:02
  26. Posted by Queen for a Day | July 12, 2012, 21:08
  27. Hey Kanis I’ll have 2 flake, 2 potatoe cakes and $3.00 of chips sorry love about your attempt into politics but the mighty ‘Greens’ won.

    Posted by anon | July 12, 2012, 21:08
  28. I won’t be in the next election because I root on other peoples money. However Julia won’t be leader because she is rubbish as a politician. We might talk about it but do you think it will ever happen? Well maybe in a decade.

    Posted by Shagger Thomson | July 12, 2012, 21:15
  29. Like the democrats with the GST Labor has marked itself with the another party’s policy – the carbon tax.

    These three words will see Labor sink like a stone.

    The youthful Greens vote will bump along – without much loss.

    No amount of bleating from the extremist value-free right wing of Labor can mend this social contract that has been broken with a Green’s carbon tax, overseas work visas in minig industry, slashed single parent pensions and the vile self serving private school nongs who run Labor and trashed Rudd…twice. A cabinet of school yard bullies was not a good look.

    Workers and union members lifted up this rabble and workers will strike it down at the next election and make the QLD and NSW elections look like a pleasant Xavier old boys picnic.

    Posted by wake in fright | July 12, 2012, 22:48
  30. What crap.

    Posted by Marilyn | July 13, 2012, 5:46
  31. I agree Marilyn, this article, the greens and the ALP are crap.

    Posted by Shagger Thomson | July 13, 2012, 9:56
  32. Mmmmmm Darrell Lea Rocky Road.
    A second on the lips and a lifetime on the hips.

    Posted by The Altona Droner | July 13, 2012, 13:22
  33. Either you are trying to stir us up or you were on something.Have a look at the last election results and count how many seats labor would have without greens prefs.Next time you mention all the good things labor has done, please give some examples.My (conspiracy)theory is that the green vote has collapsed to -5% thats why Bob Brown has cut and run, and the problem with labor is they dont know how to lure them back! Another point dont believe all this war crap between the greens and labor. The labor party,Greens and Unions are the Axis of evil.

    Posted by cona | July 13, 2012, 17:38
  34. @ wake in fright | July 12, 2012, 22:48
    Some union bosses lifted this rabble but I can tell you it was done without any willingness by workers and union members. With some polls showing a 2PP around 31% I reckon this outrageous attack on the Greens will push it down into the 28% range in the next few rounds of polling. The problem with the ALP Right spivs is that they don’t see anything outside the opinions of the rednecks in the western suburbs of Sydney and this will be fatal to them. They have alienated the older working class traditional base who were actively involved in labour politics through their unions. These are the people with some smart, educated working class, people with values who have worked hard to make things better for their kids. They have also alienated the left leaning usually professional types; often these are the kids of the previously mentioned ALP traditionalists, the kids have done well and they are the logical extension of ALP values. They went to school in a period that environmentalism was a prominent theme in education, the ALP abandoned them so they find a natural fit with The Greens. Regional Australia now doing battle over coal seam gas are also finding an ally in The Greens as various unions promote and encourage such industries in a craven attempt to shore up flagging membership levels and maintain some personal influence in the ALP usually for totally self interested reasons, no one believes that any of these modern union bosses are in it for the workers. They are only in it for themselves. Really when you look at modern day Australian politics you’ve got the spivs from the ALP, the mad, carping Libs and the Pixies in The Greens. Overall I reckon that once again the Pixies will be getting my vote, they are closest to my values and no amount of thugging from the spivs will change my mind, I dumped the spivs years ago and the thugging will just cement my view and I am certain the views of many. The Dastyari’s of the world are on the Titanic and I hope they all go down with it.

    Posted by Bring on the iceberg | July 14, 2012, 23:55
  35. Labor is the only Party who can make Melbourne a great city to live and call home to all Victorian . All the above negatives comments most likely they don’t have any faith with any party @ the moment, all my friends and families who lived in Melbourne will be supporting LABOR, why? because LABOR IS THE ONLY PARTY WHO cares about all Victorian no matter which party you belong to, Who CAN HELP TO KEEP Victoria a safe place to live and work… ONLY …if there is ANY JOB LEFT from Ted Beileu closing everyday on the news…Labor is the only party who can give hope and future to our kids & grand kids. Schools closed, great teachers gone, etc. We need jobs and schools to make all Victorian proud. VOTE LABOR

    Posted by Melbourne the best city in the world | July 16, 2012, 19:55
  36. fantastic article.

    Posted by treesnotgreens | July 17, 2012, 0:30
  37. The only way to truely take out the Greens is to vote for a
    Coalition Government.

    Posted by AnonskiIs | July 17, 2012, 8:52
  38. It is about time the ALP gave it to the Greens. TO all the Greens, next time you vote at the Federal election and decide to vote for the Greens cos of your so called conscious (or whatever BS reasons you have), just remember that it WAS YOU WHO put Tony Abbott into power.

    Posted by comrade | July 17, 2012, 16:24
  39. Again on the news tonight factories like Ford will sack, hard working Victorian. It is very sad to watch Victorian men & women upset(Victorian are the most happiest people on earth) not knowing what will the future like for their kids & grand kids. To All Victorian people, please when you go to the next election don’t vote because you like someone, or because he or she is good looking or Talk too much rubbish… Go and visit All the Parties meeting read their policies. Ask question about the future of our great City Melbourne. Don’t rock up to vote on the day and hang shit on the people who hand out for whatever parties they belong to. Number One those people does not make any decision for us. They are there because they care for the future of our Country. In my opinion LABOR IS the only Party that I can trust and understand they stand: FOR WORKING PEOPLE, PENSIONERS, SINGLE PARENT, STUDENTS, CARERS, Hospital,AND FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS. It is a pity that Labor is not in government HERE IN VICTORIA. How upsetting to see everything Mr Beileu touch,feel, see, taste or smell end up closing down….you work it out.. To make our great city happy again… Labor is the only way to vote.

    Posted by Melbourne the best city in the world | July 18, 2012, 3:52
  40. I vite Labor. They too $160 per forthnight from my pension but I will vote Labor. Even when I haad car accdent and had front labotomy I vote Labor.

    Gee don’t the Labor elite with people were so stupid.

    What kind of Labor party brings in guest workers for $100,000 job and slashes income of those on welfare.

    Ignores manufacturing crisis and Victoria’s economic fall.

    These people are not Labor – just a pale immitation. Deliver to yupy greens but hack into the incomes of the poor. Let the dole payments rot.

    Private school educated careerists – who can only just manage a tweet.

    Not credible, not genuine, not worth voting for. No next guys.

    Posted by true blue labor | July 18, 2012, 4:38
  41. It will be interesting to see how the hard right strategy of playing the man and not the ball works out in Melbourne state by-election today.

    The hard right extremists who think the Reeece approach to inner city seats was wrong at the last state election will get the results of the more agressive ‘newnham’ approach.

    Not sure the dirt sheets will add to Kanis’ vote as these tactics confirm a growing community view of Federal Labor as being bunch of nasty back stabbers who can not keep their word. Mean and dishonest. Crude dirt sheets may work in Brimbank but Melbourne state seat is a highly educated electorate and they can join the dots between who is attacked and who benefits.

    The right wing zombie-like advisors and hacks continue to devour what was left of a fair dinkum Victorian Labor party and continue to show the ugly side of Labor.

    Kanis is the innocent victim in this ugly lurch to the right.

    Truth and honesty may be two ‘brand values’ that the Labor Unity hacks running the Victorian Branch might consider trying to fake one day.

    Posted by zombie watcher | July 21, 2012, 9:20
  42. Rudd to take out trash in s conroy

    Posted by Freddy | July 25, 2012, 23:36
  43. or can they make up

    Posted by Freddy | July 29, 2012, 1:06
  44. Attention machine:

    How to win
    1. cut the climate change bull, it about sustainability

    2. come to agreement left and right about seats and positions ie sc education bs treasurer kr pm df ??

    3.appologise for schools economic stuff ups.

    4. cut deal with fringe party

    Posted by Malvern | July 29, 2012, 1:15
  45. my socks JF – part two

    5. Develop short – med and long term economic plan.

    6. develop plan for industries inc manufacturing and farming

    7. Canadian economic model what ever works

    8. recent noble economic prize winner review and advice

    9. develop infrastructural plan and invest, not to be constrained by meeting current budget

    Posted by Malvern | July 29, 2012, 21:24
  46. If politicians want a sustainable planet they need a sustainable families policiy. Giving handouts to stupid over breeding families (poor, ignorant, Roman Catholic etc) is counterproductive to sustainability. Two children good but four children bad.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | July 29, 2012, 21:43
  47. I don like Kathlicks. I don like Jews.

    Posted by Wacko Jacko | July 29, 2012, 21:45
  48. I’ve had a lovely weekend, Alan has spent half the weekend rimming my gaping anus, ii is such good news about Mally Brough he used to play military games with me like hide the beef bayonet.

    Posted by Pissy Chryne | July 29, 2012, 21:58