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		<title>By: Wild Horses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wild Horses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Tully would not know how to scratch his arse if he did not have a manual showing how to do it.  Even then he would wipe it with the wrong hand and in the wrong direction. The guy spends millions of dollars trying to boost the participation rate by 0.2% and then spends another million to prevent disclosure of his f*cups.  The 2006 State election was a screw-up plus. He cut too many corners and in the process stuffed it all up by being too complacent.  Then he tried to cover it up by lying to everyone. He has little to no support from within the Government or the opposition.  He is not even respected by his own staff. They all think he is an idiot and the reason why the VEC has become the laughing stock of the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Tully would not know how to scratch his arse if he did not have a manual showing how to do it.  Even then he would wipe it with the wrong hand and in the wrong direction. The guy spends millions of dollars trying to boost the participation rate by 0.2% and then spends another million to prevent disclosure of his f*cups.  The 2006 State election was a screw-up plus. He cut too many corners and in the process stuffed it all up by being too complacent.  Then he tried to cover it up by lying to everyone. He has little to no support from within the Government or the opposition.  He is not even respected by his own staff. They all think he is an idiot and the reason why the VEC has become the laughing stock of the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: fix it brumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>fix it brumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and all of the above under a system introduced by steve bracks and recently reendorsed by state labor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and all of the above under a system introduced by steve bracks and recently reendorsed by state labor</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.vexnews.com/news/1794/signatures-tullys-tally-not-valid-says-morgan/comment-page-1/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City of Melbourne election cost well over 2 million dollars and look what we get for it. 

How much was Bill Lang paid and how much did Tully cream off on the side? 

Is the VEC subject to an audit by the Auditor General or are they exempt as they are from review by the Ombudsman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City of Melbourne election cost well over 2 million dollars and look what we get for it. </p>
<p>How much was Bill Lang paid and how much did Tully cream off on the side? </p>
<p>Is the VEC subject to an audit by the Auditor General or are they exempt as they are from review by the Ombudsman?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go private (kpmg, gts, etc etc).    Always better and cheaper too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go private (kpmg, gts, etc etc).    Always better and cheaper too. </p>
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		<title>By: Boy named Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boy named Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Sue Lang, Bill Lang&#039;s lost son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Sue Lang, Bill Lang&#8217;s lost son.</p>
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		<title>By: dodgy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dodgy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like a postal vote system but there must be a way of verifying the votes that come in. This is a disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like a postal vote system but there must be a way of verifying the votes that come in. This is a disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Check folks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality Check folks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont for a minute believe that outsourcing these elections will fix the problem of election fraud!!!   The AEC has been advised of similar fraudulent activity in industrial postal ballots.  There response is the same as the VEC.  It wouldnt take much to verify a sample of postal vote signatures yet they refuse to do so relying on the fact that the roll supplied to them is legitimate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont for a minute believe that outsourcing these elections will fix the problem of election fraud!!!   The AEC has been advised of similar fraudulent activity in industrial postal ballots.  There response is the same as the VEC.  It wouldnt take much to verify a sample of postal vote signatures yet they refuse to do so relying on the fact that the roll supplied to them is legitimate. </p>
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		<title>By: insider VEC</title>
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		<dc:creator>insider VEC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of VEC she-males. Sue is not one of them. You mistake a strong jaw-line for having something extra down below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of VEC she-males. Sue is not one of them. You mistake a strong jaw-line for having something extra down below.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyed at anonymous.</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyed at anonymous.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares if someone is transsexual or not? Why is it relevant to this issue? People have legitimate concerns with how postal ballots are conducted in Victorian local government elections, and you&#039;d do better if you kept the focus on that and leave out the phobic cheap shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares if someone is transsexual or not? Why is it relevant to this issue? People have legitimate concerns with how postal ballots are conducted in Victorian local government elections, and you&#8217;d do better if you kept the focus on that and leave out the phobic cheap shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is that Sue Lang in fact a man who has become a woman?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is that Sue Lang in fact a man who has become a woman?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Sue Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A large number of people turned up to vote at the Town Hall on Saturday only to find that they were turned away.  Will they be fined also?  How many votes arrived on the Monday ot Tuesday following the Election weekend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A large number of people turned up to vote at the Town Hall on Saturday only to find that they were turned away.  Will they be fined also?  How many votes arrived on the Monday ot Tuesday following the Election weekend?</p>
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		<title>By: Melbcity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melbcity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;../../206/secrets-could-the-acts-early-scan-count-of-pre-poll-votes-leak-before-the-close-of-the-poll/#comment-44&quot; title=&quot;VEC access electornic voting result prior to close of poll in the absence of scutineers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VEC access prepolling data before close of poll
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The Email from Glenda Jackson that Steve Tully denied.

Copy of correspondence Glenda Jackson (VEC), dated November 24, concerning Electronic Voting Kiosk data. One day before polling day in Victoria.

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenda Frazer
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:37 AM

&lt;b&gt;Subject: Late update to results&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;A late update to all regarding the votes taken at our 6 E Centres and Melbourne Airport. Each centre mentioned will be taking votes for all Districts in the State, additionally each of these centres will be counting all votes taken on election day. &lt;b&gt;After analysing the number of voting centre results entered last night for 1st prefs (District and Region) and 2 CP&lt;/b&gt; we have realised that everyone could be waiting around all night for what would be dribs and drabs that we do not anticipate would make an impact on the result.

Because of this we have decided that we will not be entering these small results on election night. These will be entered on Sunday during the day.

Many apologies for those people who I have misinformed this afternoon, as I said this is a late change. 

We do not anticipate large numbers of votes from these centres. I will keep in touch with progress
reports. 

Regards - Glenda&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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The Email from Glenda Jackson that Steve Tully denied.</p>
<p>Copy of correspondence Glenda Jackson (VEC), dated November 24, concerning Electronic Voting Kiosk data. One day before polling day in Victoria.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: Glenda Frazer<br />
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:37 AM</p>
<p><b>Subject: Late update to results</b></p>
<p><i>A late update to all regarding the votes taken at our 6 E Centres and Melbourne Airport. Each centre mentioned will be taking votes for all Districts in the State, additionally each of these centres will be counting all votes taken on election day. <b>After analysing the number of voting centre results entered last night for 1st prefs (District and Region) and 2 CP</b> we have realised that everyone could be waiting around all night for what would be dribs and drabs that we do not anticipate would make an impact on the result.</p>
<p>Because of this we have decided that we will not be entering these small results on election night. These will be entered on Sunday during the day.</p>
<p>Many apologies for those people who I have misinformed this afternoon, as I said this is a late change. </p>
<p>We do not anticipate large numbers of votes from these centres. I will keep in touch with progress<br />
reports. </p>
<p>Regards &#8211; Glenda</i></p>
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		<title>By: Tully's Tally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully's Tally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John So (Clone): This issue is nothing to do about who won or lost the election it is about maintaining public confidence in the electoral process and the mismangement of the Victorian Electoral Commission in its administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John So (Clone): This issue is nothing to do about who won or lost the election it is about maintaining public confidence in the electoral process and the mismangement of the Victorian Electoral Commission in its administration.</p>
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		<title>By: John So</title>
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		<dc:creator>John So</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you all say what you really mean: Peter McMullin lost and you&#039;re all sad about it. Things will get easier with time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you all say what you really mean: Peter McMullin lost and you&#8217;re all sad about it. Things will get easier with time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VEC doesn&#039;t check signatures. The EPA Stasi operation in Victoria accepts fraudulent dob-ins and will not prosecute those responsible. Innocent people receive fraudulent infringement notices. They must prove their innocence. EPA Stasi Minister Jennings has been accused in Vexnews of supporting Michael Freshwater, elected by the VEC to the ninth vacancy on the East Gippsland Council. A disgrace Jennings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VEC doesn&#8217;t check signatures. The EPA Stasi operation in Victoria accepts fraudulent dob-ins and will not prosecute those responsible. Innocent people receive fraudulent infringement notices. They must prove their innocence. EPA Stasi Minister Jennings has been accused in Vexnews of supporting Michael Freshwater, elected by the VEC to the ninth vacancy on the East Gippsland Council. A disgrace Jennings.</p>
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		<title>By: Melbcity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melbcity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dear Mr Morgan &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I can confirm that signatures will be checked on all declarations in exactly the same way.  Procedures are not different for appointees of Corporations. &lt;/em&gt;

There was no effort made to check signatures or determine the validity or entitlement of the voter to cast the vote, any suggestion that was the case is an outright lie. The postal voting system that is in place is widely open to abuse with inadequate checks and balances. alll that was done was the VEC scanning the envelope and the removing the attached flap.Many which were not properly sealed breaching the privicay of the ballot, once deflapped the ballot were automaticly accepted into the count. 

Robert Doyle&#039;s Deputy Lord Mayor, Susan Riley and Council Candidate, Carl &quot;Jet Set&quot; Jetter both  supported the postal voting system.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dear Mr Morgan </em></p>
<p><em>I can confirm that signatures will be checked on all declarations in exactly the same way.  Procedures are not different for appointees of Corporations. </em></p>
<p>There was no effort made to check signatures or determine the validity or entitlement of the voter to cast the vote, any suggestion that was the case is an outright lie. The postal voting system that is in place is widely open to abuse with inadequate checks and balances. alll that was done was the VEC scanning the envelope and the removing the attached flap.Many which were not properly sealed breaching the privicay of the ballot, once deflapped the ballot were automaticly accepted into the count. </p>
<p>Robert Doyle&#8217;s Deputy Lord Mayor, Susan Riley and Council Candidate, Carl &#8220;Jet Set&#8221; Jetter both  supported the postal voting system.</p>
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