The NSW Socialist Left have been accused of harbouring a dangerous and potentially violent criminal, Julian Kirkby. They also face claims of ballot-rorting and using false addresses on ALP records.
On Sunday, Kirkby wrote in an email sent to dozens of NSW Left members:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:19 PM, juliankirkby <juliankirkby@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Here is my post conference rant, I will leave it quite short.
I am sure I will eventually get over it but right now I am pretty pissed and yes I know that I should not use the newsgroup for this purpose but hey.
Another leftist, a Kristie Flannery responded glossed over the threat to kill a political rival rather light-heartedly:
From: kristie flannery
Subject: Re: [yll_nsw] Conference was fucked, screw centre unity
To: yll_nsw@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 6:12 AM
One day he’ll be an MP so you better get used to it
The clearly psychiatrically disturbed young man Kirkby responded, repeating his threat to kill:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Julian Kirkby <juliankirkby@yahoo.com> wrote:
Unless I do actually stab him in the face of course
Chris Parkin is a senior figure in Young Labor for the NSW centre faction.
WHAT FUELLED KIRKBY’S DEADLY RAGE
What prompted the angry outburst of violent fury was a disastrous result for Socialist Left forces at the Young Labor Annual Conference this past weekend. They elected a Centre Unity president, Janai Tabbernor, the first female elected in twelve years. She was clearly not to Mr Kirkby’s taste.
VEXNEWS was impressed that a more senior lefty Lucy Saunders intervened, reprimanding the young man by email in front of his comrades, writing:
Ok guys, this needs to stop…
THE LEFT HIGH COMMAND RESPONDS
The surprisingly reasonable Saunders – an NUS Education Officer – spoke with VEXNEWS and attempted to explain Kirkby’s conduct in threatening to kill a political rival.
“It was a short, jocular email. It was his first conference and he was disappointed by the behaviour of the Right.”
She said she had no plans to expel or initiate disciplinary proceedings against Kirkby despite his violent threats.
“I don’t think that’s necessary. Anyone who knows Julian would know that he wouldn’t do it. Parkin (the target of the threat) should just chill-ax.”
“He’s eighteen years old, has just finished high school and was upset. I have spoken with him and encouraged him to be more focused on productive activism. I feel he is now back on the straight and narrow and has been diverted from his potential life of crime,” Saunders said.
What had contributed to Kirkby’s pain was a speech given by highly regarded outgoing President Chris Parkin who rose to give an eloquent and impassioned valedictory speech after the results of the ballot were released. At that time the yellow leaflet proving Left-wing malfeasance was distributed. The Left say this distribution was a provocation because there had been a pre-conference “no sh*t-sheet” deal in place in an attempt to protect the Optix paper supplies of NSW Federal and State MP’s.
The leaflet revealed the Left had stacked the conference with people who all listed address details as merely a PO Box in Sydney. Cheap accommodation indeed, albeit rather crowded.
Patriot witnesses say that Left leader Lucy Saunders saw the sheet being distributed and yelled “hey you what have you got there. I know my own hand writing when I see it” before snatching it from the hands of a young labor member.
Lucy exploded, walking out of the YL conference while screaming obscenities that expressed her shame and embarrassment at being caught in a rort, ably supported by Comrade Dave Weblin of the left who strained the normal limits of political correctness by repeatedly dropping the C-Bomb.
Looks like a budding serial killer
I’m sure he could get a job working for Pauline fegan having all the HSU staff beaten up
He appears to be something of a toothless tiger…
Nice one, GossipGirl! What a scoop! He really did sound serious! (Um, not…)
GG, your “journalistic talent” is slipping (not so far to slip I may add).
The Right behaved disgracefully.
i think that this is an insight that the left are being trained by Cuba
Its quite sad to see that someone would actually spend time and exert effort in writing an article like this. There must be something more productive to do. Take up cross-stitching or bird watching or something!
Point of order, could the blogger refrain from referring to the delegates as comrade. the grand parkin has made his ruling on this.
surely the bigger rort is that none of the delegates are actually from the AMWU, but we’re all still ignoring that stack arent we.
If this is the type of radical and violent people the Left of Young Labor are attracting then no wonder the Right is in power. I think Chris needs to take an AVO … that guy looks like he’s been in juveny!
I can’t believe how dodgy that form is … that shocking
It must be understood that comrade David Weblin of the left still has his knickers in a twist about giving his NUS votes to the right last year.
I think the author was very unwise to cross Kirkby. Take a look at him, he looks very dangerous.
Hmmm… Serves me right for emailing when annoyed, tied and less than sober I guess. I suppose I should know that e-lists are not secure but here we are.
I think the ebst thing for Left of Young Labor is to clean up their act and get rid of people like this who drag Young Labor’s name into the dirt, but also YLL who do some good work, they dont need this shit, SENT HIM BACK TO GAOL
He enjoys Dungeons and Dragons, reading the Communist Manifesto, and watching movies about dead Communist thugs
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1259223879&hiq=julian%2Ckirkby
Activities:
Camping, abseiling, Dungeons and Dragons
Interests:
Politics, gaming, & the internets…
Favourite Music:
Flogging Molly, Joy Division, the Clash, MAIDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Gregorian chant, Terence Chua, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash
Favourite TV Programmes:
Red Vs Blue, Dexter, The Hollowmen
Favourite Films:
Motorcycle Diarys, Swordfish, Tracker
Favourite Books:
Dune, The Communist Manifesto, American Gods
Favourite Quotations:
Vell Zaphods just this guy you know.
Massacres, What Massacres? -Keith Windschuttle
About Me:
Head, limbs, body, all the usual features unless I am grossly missinformed about anatomy.
Apart from the fact that this was probably just a mole-hill, I’m frankly disgusted by the factional animosity when you consider that we’re supposed to be standing together.
What did Minister Keneally say? Smart and strong? HAH. We’re behaving like a bunch of 3rd graders, throwing tantrums just because who you voted for didn’t win. Stupid and weak.
Might I also remind you that whilst it’s an effective jab at the Left (and personally, I find it nearly making the cut for Sick Sad World), it damages the overall YLA integrity.
And stop calling us Comrade: we’re not at war.
David Weblin of the left didn’t know where his votes were going. . . ahahah helarious! I bet he checks his proxy a little more carefully this time around. .
Oh, and Kirky:
“Comrade” cause we’re slavic, and “psychopath” cause we all graduated primary school.
I hear Lucy is a man-eater
Oh shit!
He likes Dexter, isn’t that with the serial killer!!!
The left behaved appallingly this conference! I have never seen such disrespect for the ALP’s rules and platform. The policies they put forward lacked substance as well as reality and were really just written in an attempt to convince their minions that they are some what “left”. The insanity of YLL can be directly reflected in Kirkby’s actions. I think this matter should be taken further until charges, be they criminal or party, are laid.
It would be quite interesting to note why the conference was held the day it was, perhaps because 1yr memberships ran out the following day and delegates would have to re pay their memberships in order to keep continuity. Also one might be interested to see the returns from the other union delegations specifically the HSU returns which didn’t even have membership numbers or addresses on them. May I also commend headoffice for paying for accomodation of Right Wing Delegates aswell as the majority of their membership forms, suit hire and underage grog for those under 18. I commend the delegates who live in Canberra representing esteemed YLAs such as Blacktown and Central West, the 8 hour long communte from Orange to UNSW everyday must really be a pain in the Arse Jainaie…….
The real story is the decisive victory for Centre Unity – not just in numbers, but in ideas and moral authority.
Centre Unity debated with discipline, focus and intelligence, while the ranting loonies on the Left resorted to personal taunts, intimidation and stereotyping to convey their ugly, extremist ideology.
Their fake indignation was truly pathetic. The Right expose lefty rorting? How dare they!?
Rich parents may have bought these obnoxious little brats places in leftard cultural theory at Sydney Uni, but obviously not common sense or common decency.
I could be next John Newman
It’s hilarious comrade that you can have such an opinion claiming how much you know about the organisation when you can’t even spell the president’s name right. It’s Janai. I suspect that you are an old inner city leftie hack who turned up on the Sunday for 5 mins to vote for you mangled faction and are having a cry because of their devastating loss. A loss that was due to their poor and non existent leadership skills, idiotic policy and vicious tactics which failed. HAHA. You should probably stop posting now.
What I find interesting is that Parkin and Janai actually think they run a vibrant organisation. The right dropped over 40 votes on Sunday.. Thats right 40. Now when I ran I only dropped one. What has happened to our faction. Perhaps Stephen Dampf should have run for President, at least the email list would always be working. Only problem with that is that ol’ Dampfy is the Peter Costello of Young Labor cos he doesn’t have the backbone to run for the leadership.
Better run, I think I hear Mr Thistlewaite calling..
Back down Sam, everyone knows Im the conference king, prodigal son if you will. I was so good I didnt even hold a conference, needless to say I didnt drop a delegate. On your knees!!
Oh, Matt has a menial task for me to, not photocopying newspapers again, hot damn! Back to work…
Brendan Brendan. If I remember correctly you were left to look after the credentialling desk at this conference. Not much of a job is it? I mean you must be the least successful YL president since that capital punishment supporter George Houssos.
Now look out before I throw your stapler out the window..
Head office is fun, Im not even a financial member of the party!!
No Brendan, you can’t borrow my stapler. Go away!
I’d be the conference queen if people would just sit down and realise i’m better than everybody else.
I spent the weekend at Conference because Luke told me to, not because I can’t let go. We would’ve won if Young Labor weren’t so corrupt. I mean they let us get away with putting PO Boxes as addresses for people. Any organisation that allows us to get away with that has to be corrupt!
Anyway – back to work. John Graham isn’t asking for a latte this morning – I’m a bit worried he might be defecting to the Right. I better get him what he asks for though – I’ll never be Member for Wentworth if he doesn’t love me to pieces.
I was so pleased with my performance at conference that I have bought a new suit and decided to part my hair on the other side of my head.
I’m so crazy.
Is it jan-I or jan-E?
I am so charismatic and untelligent I have nothing to add to this conversation.
Who am I again? No-one seems to know?
Short black today thanks Rose.
But John! You’re not short – you’re tall and handsome.
Don’t worry Jenny – I’m not attracted to him… I just have to do whatever he says.
Who am I?
I am a ranting lefty who went to the prestigous Sydney University where Mummy and Daddy looked after my fees.
I’m a failed student politician who had a number of gigs including Union Board Director, Senate, SRC President and NUS President which I enjoyed thoroughly as I saw in the introduction of VSU and did nothing but watch.
I also have a thing for the right wingers.
Who am I?
How come no-one cares about what I have to say.
I guess they were right when they said no-one likes me.
I’m not antisemitic I swear!
[deleted - impersonation] isnt even my real name!
Please be nice to John, I don’t want him to talk nasty to me again and threaten to take my job away for being a bad little boy. I like photocopying newsletters for the Premier, its the best job in the world! Please dont let big bad John headkick my job away. Please.
Im a past president of Young Labor and I have never achieved anything of any merit and Im now a wash up hack?
it is i who failed
That bloke could get a job with the NUW in NSW for sure!
“I love the right wingers, especially those south of the border.”
Dear “Who Am I”,
Can you narrow it down a bit, mate? ALL past presidents of YLA are washed up hacks!!!
Albo?
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