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THE THREAT: NSW Liberal Hard Right MP tries to silence VEXNEWS while eyewitnesses speak out

marieficarra NSW Hard Right Liberal upper house MP Marie Ficarra and several factional colleagues have threatened VEXNEWS after our publication of an exclusive story that revealed their outrageous antics at a meeting this week of campus Liberals at Sydney University.

The attempt to silence VEXNEWS will be vigorously contested and defended. Ficarra was once described by former NSW Premier Bob Carr as being like Bronwyn Bishop “without the delicacy.” We look forward to meeting and beating her in court, where the full extent of her threatening conduct will be revealed.

The background to our original report is that Ficarra is closely aligned with right faction leader David Clarke, whose forces have recently been at odds with younger less socially conservative Liberal Right rivals linked to federal MP Alex Hawke. The conflict exploded at the campus meeting and other aspects of the conflict have been reported in the left-wing press.

In correspondence issued by a polite but pushy young lawyer Sheridan Levy from a small – let’s be polite, boutique – Sydney law firm, Ficarra and her comrades angrily deny a variety of claims, most of which were never made on VEXNEWS but they have interpreted in to the story.

Sadly for Ficarra, just as her lawyer’s letter arrived, VEXNEWS received a number of audio recordings of a Young Liberal meeting the following evening replete with eyewitness testimony about Ficarra’s highly inappropriate conduct which is described by those distressed Liberal members as “throat slitting.”

If you listen carefully to  the recordings, you will be shocked at the descriptions of Ficarra’s behaviour and the genuine disappointment expressed by former supporters of hers who were horrified at her decision to intrude on the campus Liberal meeting and her intimidatory behaviour while there.

One particularly damning account by someone who was actively involved in assisting her preselection is clearly made more in sorrow and disappointment than in anger.

It’s natural for anyone to want to silence criticism. No-one likes it. But in this case, Ficarra is a public official and lawmaker who has done much to discredit herself through her own actions. She must and will be held to account for her actions.

The photographic evidence we published this week is clear, she was caught making very hostile gestures to her factional rivals. The first-hand testimony of eye-witnesses in the audio recordings is also clear. She behaved inappropriately, shockingly and should seriously be considering her ongoing role in public life in light of these revelations.

Ficarra is keen to point out in her letter that her hostile gestures were taken as a “threat to kill,” that’s not how VEXNEWS sees it or reported it but it’s certainly a gesture of intimidation that is reasonably interpreted as extremely hostile. Whatever it is, it is absolutely outrageous conduct for a Member of Parliament anywhere, let alone at a meeting of her party’s supporters at a place better known for its nurturing climate of the extreme left.

Her shame ought not come from our publication of her activities but from the disgraceful antics themselves.

In a letter marked “Not for Publication” (we did explain to a distressed Ms Levy that the best way of ensuring lawyer’s threat letters aren’t published on VEXNEWS is not to send us any), Ficarra denied many claims we had never made including that she or her comrades had “assaulted and physically restrained” or “falsely imprisoned” a person at the meeting, had issued “threats to kill”, were Nazis or had misused their public office in some way. They vehemently denied these allegations, which is fair enough. We also deny the allegation not contained in Ms Levy’s letter that we eat frogs and are in league with Jesuits or albinos.

For your reading and listening pleasure, please see below the “not for publication” letter from Ficarra’s lawyers and the audio recordings of shocked eyewitnesses at a Young Liberal meeting describing Ficarra’s outrageous misconduct.

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Hard Right Liberal MP Marie Ficarra’s threat to silence VEXNEWS [pdf]

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97 comments for “THE THREAT: NSW Liberal Hard Right MP tries to silence VEXNEWS while eyewitnesses speak out”

  1. These guys are tools.

    Posted by Anonski | August 1, 2009, 11:47
  2. Sheridan. txt me pls. Wld b very hot

    Posted by RDR | August 1, 2009, 11:49
  3. wow, well I’m pretty sure Farlow and Fontana with this recording have pretty obviously broken party rules in terms of media. If they don’t get slammed for this it’s a vote of no confidence in the State Director.

    These people are willing to destroy the image of the party by leaking because they don’t have numbers in the Young Liberals.

    Posted by anon | August 1, 2009, 12:01
  4. Tell us what happened when Sheridan called – you get a date?

    Posted by Anonymous | August 1, 2009, 12:11
  5. Thank you to my adviser Amy Houston for illegally recording the SULC AGM and leaking it to Vex.

    Libertarian lefties unite!

    Posted by Alex Hawke | August 1, 2009, 13:46
  6. VEXNEWS: 2
    Extremists: 0

    Posted by Top Shelf Tony | August 1, 2009, 13:52
  7. As a Young Liberal, this is very disturbing and is causing me to question my membership of the party.

    Alex hawke is divisive and out of control and has clearly decided to illegally record conversations and use the media to further his own agenda.

    Why is a Federal MP so involved with the YLs anyway? Surely someone needs to speak to Nick Campbell and Alex Hawke and let them know that using the media this way is not smart politics.

    Posted by Concerned YL | August 1, 2009, 14:13
  8. Maybe Farlow should spend more time looking for a job (and when I say job I don’t mean the state seat of Drummoyne) and less time trying to stack out the NSW YL and ALSF.

    Posted by Shooter McGavin | August 1, 2009, 14:17
  9. What’s clear to me is that David Clarke and others have led the faction for years…at least I know what they stand for.

    What does Scott Farlow stand for? Or Simon Fontana?

    And does Mark Chan really think he is going to get the seat of Bennelong because Alex Hawke promised it to him?

    Posted by Concerned YL | August 1, 2009, 15:01
  10. Am I the only one who’s wondering why Nat Smith recorded this and then decided to leak it? Is he that mentally deficient? I know shooting themselves in the feet comes naturally to the Tali horde, but you’d think they’d draw the line at utterly retarded moves.

    Posted by Nolan | August 1, 2009, 15:09
  11. This site, run by a Labor Party jew, should be shut down.

    Posted by Anonymous | August 1, 2009, 15:52
  12. funny how these young liberal blokes are intimidated by the 4′10 Marie Ficarra…

    Grow a pair!

    pussies!

    Posted by vc | August 1, 2009, 16:23
  13. vc,

    You’d be sh*tting yourself too if a little old Italian woman made that gesture towards you.

    I have hired a security guard to sit outside my house 24/7 and told him not to let in 4 “10 old Italian women carrying machetes in to the Fontana residence.

    Marie you are an evil, evil woman.

    Simon Fontana.
    Pro-choice Roman Catholic.

    Posted by Simon Fontana | August 1, 2009, 16:46
  14. if the stress gets too much you can always go see a counsellor…like you had to do every morning of the usyd election a few years back

    Throwing up the morning of every polling day…too funny!

    AGAIN: Pussies, grow a pair!

    sure it isn’t Simone..??

    Posted by vc | August 1, 2009, 16:50
  15. Ha ha…funny as! Stick it too ‘em Andrew!

    Posted by Natural selection | August 1, 2009, 17:43
  16. Ok, I’m not on the nutter-camp but are we really allowed to record a speaker without his/her consent or without even notifying them?
    Mainstream conservatives have the upper hand, lets not loose it by doing illegal things like our branch-stacking counterparts.
    VEX please take down the audio recordings before the extremists make it part of their civil case.

    Posted by Jane Smith | August 1, 2009, 18:10
  17. It is perfectly lawful to record a political meeting of this kind unless the meeting was conducted over telephone which this wasn’t. Even in that case recording from a speakerphone is legally ok.

    Well done!

    Posted by Truthspeaker | August 1, 2009, 18:27
  18. a transcript would be nice

    Posted by Evil Bastard | August 1, 2009, 18:37
  19. Truthspeaker, legal under what set of rules? Legal under the law? Perhaps, but legal under the constitution? Certainly not.

    When someone joins an association of any variety they agree to be bound by a set of rules that the general public are not. It would be reasonably arguable that the recording and distribution of this recording would violate the constitution.

    While the offender would certainly never suffer any reduction of liberty, they could certainly have their membership of the organisation revoked, or suspended.

    Posted by Bix | August 1, 2009, 20:00
  20. Mistake one: Behaving as if politics is a blood sport.
    Mistake two: Trying to stop the reporting of the behavior.
    Mistake three: Complaining because people recorded the behavior.

    Posted by CHARLES | August 1, 2009, 20:50
  21. Sheridan….give me a call at Parliament House. Bill Shorten.

    Posted by Bill@yahoo.com.au | August 1, 2009, 21:54
  22. So, if a 6′4″ bloke made those throat slitting gestures its a serious threat but if a woman makes them its not.

    Gotta love femini-nazis, its equal opportunity when it suits.

    Posted by Anonymous | August 1, 2009, 22:03
  23. ***as a Young Liberal, this is very disturbing and is causing me to question my membership of the party***

    Gee.

    You sound deeply concerned, Young Liberal.

    Posted by Byron in Wahroonga | August 1, 2009, 22:05
  24. ***it’s natural for anyone to want to silence criticism. No-one likes it***

    Calling someone a Nazi and saying they made threats to kill goes a little beyond criticism, Andrew.

    Posted by Byron in Wahroonga | August 1, 2009, 22:07
  25. ***if a 6′4″ bloke made those throat slitting gestures its a serious threat but if a woman makes them its not***

    Apparently the people those gestures were directed toward are angels. Any and all bad behaviour that occurred at the event was one hundred per cent the fault of one side. Bob Carr said so, and everybody trusts Bob Carr.

    Posted by Byron in Wahroonga | August 1, 2009, 22:13
  26. I hate John Howard and all that he stands for!

    The future is Malcolm Turnbull. Lefties and libertarians will unite to legalise drugs, open Australia’s borders and abolish the age of consent.

    Posted by Alex Hawke | August 1, 2009, 23:13
  27. Sill Bhorten has knocked up the GG’s daughter, he might look like a impotent little jerk but obviously he can do the deed.

    Posted by Soon to be ex-ALP Member | August 2, 2009, 0:09
  28. So you think they’ll go through with the threat and sue for defo ??

    Posted by Anonymous | August 2, 2009, 0:18
  29. If you listen to the recording, the ‘Nays’ are consistently as loud as, if not louder than, the ‘Ayes’ and yet in every case the Ayes have it on just the voices. Now what does this say about which camp the recorder hails from?

    Posted by ds | August 2, 2009, 0:33
  30. Advice for first year Liberals – If Christopher Pyne asks to meet you in a Darlinghurst Steam Room to talk “policy”, Stay away! Walk home now and keep your self respect (and rectum) intact!!!!

    Posted by Simon C | August 2, 2009, 3:57
  31. Lesson 2 for young players / Young Liberals – “You are destined for Big Things. Trust me. One day, you’ll be the member for ______. I’ve got my eye on you and you will do great things” When Alex Hawke and Nick Campbell tell you this (and they will), work backwards and crunch the numbers!!!! Alex is promising more than he can ever possibly hope to deliver. Don’t believe me? That’s OK. Write down every promise that Alex makes and see how many he delivers on???? A great example will be how Alex and Nick screw Farlow on Drummoyne. Can’t wait for the excuses…. state executive, media, trade off – no matter what the circumstance, the Joy Boys remain the same, unworthy of trust.

    Posted by Simon C | August 2, 2009, 4:24
  32. Hey Simon C, that the exact same script for Young Labor….hmmm could it be….maybe both parties just blow hot air up the bums of young kids to get them to do the dirty work..and they fall for all the empty promises? Could that be true…? Nah..they would never be so mean, could they?

    Posted by The Clam Man | August 2, 2009, 9:41
  33. Today’s Young Liberals would be advised to remember that NEITHER faction in this silly stoush – Catholics, or evangelical Rightwingers – would have been welcome in the Liberal Party within living memory.

    John Howard’s predecessor in Bennelong, Sir John Cramer, was a very rare creature – a Catholic Liberal MP. In Tony Abbott’s new book, Santamaria apparently refused to give Abbott a reference because he did not believe Catholics could thrive in the Libs.

    But however it was hard for RC-ers, what about the modern versions of the evangelicals? They were “trailer trash”! Wrong suburbs, wrong school, dad not a member of a proper club… didn’t matter if they were right-wing… they just weren’t the right type of person to be considered for the party.

    It’s extraordinary that these guys seem so unfamiliar with their own party’s history! BOTH factions in this stoush are recent inventions to the Liberal Party. Grow up.

    Posted by Dull Respectable North Shore Tory | August 2, 2009, 11:39
  34. For someone who has a surname name which rhymes with mine, Simon sure is a pussy. Do you think Tony Montana ever just sat around in his massive house worrying about angry old Italian women. Pffff.

    Here’s a quote Simon which I think may relevant to your life right now.

    “You don’t got nothing to do with your life. Why don’t you get a [real] job? Work with lepers. Blind kids. [Private enterprise.] Anything’s gotta be better than lying around all day waiting for [Marie Ficarra] to fuck you.”

    Tony Montana – 1983.

    Posted by The ghost of Tony Montana | August 2, 2009, 14:00
  35. For someone who has a surname name which rhymes with mine, Simon sure is a p*ssy. Do you think Tony Montana ever just sat around in his massive house worrying about angry old Italian women. Pffff.

    Here’s a quote Simon which I think may relevant to your life right now.

    “You don’t got nothing to do with your life. Why don’t you get a [real] job? Work with lepers. Blind kids. [Private enterprise.] Anything’s gotta be better than lying around all day waiting for [Marie Ficarra] to f*ck you.”

    Tony Montana – 1983.

    Posted by The ghost of Tony Montana | August 2, 2009, 14:00
  36. I was at YL council, and sympathatic to Farlow/Fontana, because i hate the religous having a place in politics. But illegally recording council and then leaking it to the Press, where is the State Director!

    If they are willing to do this now, they are they willing to do if they get real political power???

    Posted by Carly | August 2, 2009, 15:06
  37. We don’t want Christians – join Family First!

    We are Liberals, economically and socially.

    Posted by john | August 2, 2009, 15:15
  38. INVESTIGATE Houston, Farlow, Fontana for illegally recording council meetings and leaking them through to SMH.

    Not the first time they are leaked material to Fairfax anti-Liberal smear articles.

    Posted by Out with the Ambition Faction | August 2, 2009, 15:50
  39. Another letter for the ‘vacuous legal threats’ file.

    Posted by Walter Plinge | August 2, 2009, 15:56
  40. As a Liberals supporter, I’m disappointed that you are all directing your energies in the wrong place. Labor is the enemy!

    Posted by Pete | August 2, 2009, 16:08
  41. Hmm…Sheridan is it?I’d give her a lennth……………

    Posted by Ghost of Latham. | August 2, 2009, 16:42
  42. Txt me Sheridan.
    RDR.

    Posted by Anonymous | August 2, 2009, 17:33
  43. wow, well I’m pretty sure Farlow and Fontana with this recording have pretty obviously broken party rules in terms of media. If they don’t get slammed for this it’s a vote of no confidence in the State Director.

    These people are willing to destroy the image of the party by leaking because they don’t have numbers in the Young Liberals.

    Posted by Janson | August 2, 2009, 21:30
  44. wow.

    whoever recorded this (you would have to assume Farlow considering the proximity of his voice) will certainly be in the shit for passing the contents of the meeting on to the media.

    Posted by Bouncing Benny | August 2, 2009, 21:48
  45. Janson, I was listening to the recording and it sounds fairly obvious that Farlow and Fontana weren’t the ones to make it.

    If anyone has a case that undoes the logic of above posters outlining the volume of ‘nays’, etc and where the cheering comes from, it would be appreciated if you shared it.

    Posted by Nolan | August 2, 2009, 21:52
  46. Sheridan, Sheridan, if only you were blonde!

    Posted by Greg Combet | August 2, 2009, 22:28
  47. LoL @ Potts Speech. It was his last club meeting. probably his first too.

    Posted by Anony. | August 2, 2009, 22:29
  48. Andrew, you have been absolutely beastly to Sheridan. Shame, Landeryou, shame! Sheridan is simply too hot to be cruel to.

    Posted by Mike Hunt (President of the Sheridan Levy Fan Club) | August 2, 2009, 22:30
  49. Nolan,

    Amy Houston was sitting at the back on the other side from the conservatives, but is why they are more noticeble than farlow/fontana who were at the front.

    YOU can’t fool us. :-)

    Us conservatives were there!! where were u?

    Posted by Janson | August 2, 2009, 22:46
  50. Nat Smith was seen allegedly recording the YL council meeting, as corroborated apparently by SMS’ individuals received. It would appear that Farlow and Fontana are clean in this regard.

    To be honest, this is boring and I stopped giving a crap a long time ago.

    Enjoy fighting, everyone, I’m off to read the superficial.

    Posted by Nolan | August 2, 2009, 22:57
  51. Ok Nolan, haha even you are tired of your lies. lol.

    Everyone knows that Fontana has form for leaking articles … and crusing the YL lists for young members.

    Posted by Friend | August 2, 2009, 23:07
  52. Why couldn’t Tim Andrews do what we did to those social conservatives, instead of selling his soul to them.

    Posted by B | August 2, 2009, 23:23
  53. Janson,

    So was it Farlow, Fontana, or Amy, or can you just not make your mind up?

    Posted by wat | August 2, 2009, 23:58
  54. The person who recorded this was definitely sitting near the back of the room.

    In the last recording Nat and Scott’s voices are muffled while I can hear Jerome’s clearly.

    So we can all draw an own inferences on who may have recorded it.

    Posted by anon | August 3, 2009, 0:18
  55. “Houston, we have a problem,”

    Posted by Apollo 13 | August 3, 2009, 1:49
  56. If she hadn’t tried getting the meeting stacked out in the first place she wouldn’t have had these problems. Sure it could be wrong to have recorded it but the woman was insane to have done what she did

    Posted by ran.dom | August 3, 2009, 2:26
  57. Should’ve used Sheridan as my lawyer.

    Posted by Ross Cameron | August 3, 2009, 2:48
  58. I was there and it was Amy Houston, who works for Alex Hawke.

    Keep leaking to Vexnews guys – you are doing more harm then good.

    Crimninals like Houston, Farlow, Fontana should be hunted out of the party. Breaking the law to scoop more dirt for this story is just very sad for the Party.

    Posted by I was there | August 3, 2009, 14:51
  59. Illegally recording meetings and leaking them to score factional points yet damage the party!

    This so-called Leadership group of the YLs behave like a mafia family. Disgusting! We even have an overweight Capo in charge.

    Posted by New Start | August 3, 2009, 15:00
  60. If these were urgency motions put up during the meeting why does Mark Chan have a prepared speech.

    He must been in on this and certain segments of the movement must have known that this was coming

    Posted by a little surprised | August 3, 2009, 15:05
  61. Do up a transcript Landeryou, you lazy bastard!

    Posted by Jamieeatshisownshit | August 3, 2009, 15:07
  62. I can’t beleive we are going to do this again. Doesn’t Scott Farlow realise that if he starts destroying the party in the media in the party just after O’farrel got the left to stop it, there wont be any point in running for Drummoyne? Although I think Simon C summed that up earlier anyway…but still clearly Farlow is too stupid and doesn’t realise he wont be the candidate…oh dear ive answered my own question. Conclusion- FARLOW IS TOO STUPID FOR POLITICS

    Posted by Irritated | August 3, 2009, 17:26
  63. Dull Respectable North Shore Tory | August 2, 2009, 11:39: “Santamaria apparently refused to give Abbott a reference because he did not believe Catholics could thrive in the Libs.”
    Santamaria died ten years ago – you idiot…

    Posted by Jamieeatshisownshit | August 3, 2009, 17:34
  64. Nat Smith is a cu*nt !
    I told my friend not to leak this.

    Posted by Noel McCoy | August 3, 2009, 22:24
  65. Hey guys,

    A little tip from your favourite libertarian. If you have a wedding, don’t even bother with a reception.

    It really cuts down on the costs, and if you offer attendees exec positions at SULC they’re usually happy enough to come along anyway.

    Gotta make tracks guys (those branches aren’t gonna stack ‘em selves now are they?),

    Yours in libertarianism,

    Scott Farlow.

    Posted by Scotty Farlow | August 3, 2009, 23:53
  66. I almost threw up after Chan got a standing ovation for his little sob story about how the muslims weren’t very nice to him in Malaysia. Why don’t you just give yourself a f*cking medal?

    There are countless other Australians who or their parents have fled from a nasty regime, you’re not unique and on the scale of things the naughty, naughty Malaysians were pretty damn mild.

    To compare the “uglies” with the Malaysian regime is just a massive joke. I haven’t heard of them running around burning down jesuit monasteries, plundering Uniting Churches or sending threats to Chris Pyne.

    The whole motion was created in response to baseless rumours, propagated by the soft right to demonise the hard right.

    Chan, Farlow, Kelly – go give yourselves an uppercut you wet sissies.

    Posted by Satan | August 4, 2009, 0:13
  67. herp derp, god is the only way! all lefties are gay and should burn in hell for their sins!

    Posted by herp derp i'm a catholic | August 4, 2009, 1:45
  68. Dull Respectable North Shore Tory | August 2, 2009, 11:39: “Santamaria apparently refused to give Abbott a reference because he did not believe Catholics could thrive in the Libs.”
    Santamaria died ten years ago – you idiot…

    Posted by Jamieeatshisownshit | August 3, 2009, 17:34

    Yes, Santa did.

    But, if you read Battlelines, you will see that BA declined to give Abbott a reference in his preselection stoush for Warringah. Laurie Oakes touched on that recently as well…

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25864372-5000117,00.html

    Posted by Dull Respectable North Shore Tory | August 4, 2009, 16:05
  69. Has Amy won any jackpots lately or isn’t she playing the pokies anymore?

    Posted by Augustus | August 4, 2009, 19:24
  70. I have often wondered why the likes of Campbell, Hawake, Farlow and Fontana ever joined the Liberal party. You can just as easily believe in nothing in the Greens or Democrats.

    Posted by Augustus | August 4, 2009, 19:25
  71. Did Farlow or Hawke give the order for them to stop posting?

    They seem to all act in unison suddenly posting and then stopping. They are all clearly puppets at the beck and call of Farlow and Hawke.

    Posted by All is quiet on the western front | August 5, 2009, 12:57
  72. Yes! it is scary how they show up out of nowhere and then instantly disappear again.

    Posted by Jac | August 6, 2009, 11:18
  73. All is quiet on the western front – you are right I did send out the order to the Farlow Youth to stop posting.

    This is so we can take the moral high ground at the next YL meeting and I also thought it was a good idea to reign it in as my goons and I are such hollow characters with very dubious political and sexual histories so it was just too easy to sling mud at us.

    Yours in libertarianism,

    Scott Farlow
    Recent migrant to Five Dock

    Posted by Scott Farlow | August 7, 2009, 11:17
  74. Time for a game.

    My boyfriend recently dumped me after realising what an ugly person I am both inside and out.

    I always wear fur in the vain hope to fool someone into thinking I’m conservative and classy when I’m really the biggest leftie in the party (I’d probably fit in better with the greens).

    I have a marine science degree which means I’m qualified to talk with authority on pretty much any subject.

    I believe that open borders, an Australian republic, gay marriage and drug legalistation are the best things we could possibly do for our country.

    I’m one of Farlow’s b*tches.

    I am a closet lezzy.

    Who am I?

    Posted by Who Am I? | August 7, 2009, 11:30
  75. The liberal party doesn’t seem to know who’s got ability and who hasn’t. If they’re looking to refashion the party, they’re going to have to do better than turn to some of the ‘wet behind the ears’ marshmellows who are in the young liberals that certainly’s not the answer and there’s not much public appeal in some of those people.

    We’ve already got one in the seat of Mitchell, a bloke called HAWKE, ALEX HAWKE out there. I don’t know to what extent he represents mainstream liberal thinking, there’s a stack of them (Farlow, cough, cough) who sit in the back rooms and orgainise against people who are actually out there representing.

    If there’s still a job to be done age shouldn’t matter. The one person we need to hang on to in NSW is Bill Heffernan (how nice of Scot to invie him to the YL meeting). We’re now told the party’s pressuring Bill Heffernan to bow out at the next election…

    The one person who knows something about liberal values, stands up for the battler and knows something about life west of the Great Dividing Range and has got guts and says it as he sees it (Farlow, cough, cough) and people love him for it the one bloke is Bill Heffernan and everybody knows him.

    Posted by Alan Jones aka the truth | August 7, 2009, 13:55
  76. …and now someone’s after his job (*Farlow* *cough* *cough*) because his profile’s too high. Does he know too much? Is he too outspoken?

    I bet they don’t have the guts to tell Bill Heffernan to his face, that they’re after his job – that would be interesting, he’d finish them off no trouble (imagine an alstian fighting a chihuahua) and it’d be some weak kneed back room toadie (*Farlow* *cough* *cough*) who’s never been out amongst the people in his life (not entirely true he has been amongst the cars at Victoria Rd, Drummoyne).

    Bill Heffernan’s gotten his hands dirty as a farmer (Farlow’s gotten his dirty in the backrooms of SULC), he knows about bushfires, he knows about drought he’s been through it, he knows about people that’s why he’s a good representative of them (maybe if the majority of Aussies were fat, slimy, libertarians Scott’d make a good rep). I’d make Bill Heffernan a senator for life in NSW if i could. And anyone who wants to put Bill Heffernan in fourth place on the senate ticket, they will simply carp the party into political oblivion.

    Posted by Alan Jones aka the truth | August 7, 2009, 14:07
  77. Heffo claims he is a “worn out old farmer”. That may be so, but he has to answer for putting Marise Payne back in the Senate. He should give up his seat for her, if he thinks she is so valuable. Heffo even wanted Tierney on his ticket last time, but the Party dumped the useless old frown. You can’t trust Heffo, and the right shouldn’t reward his disloyalty.

    Posted by Anonymous | August 7, 2009, 19:34
  78. Wild Bill’s treacherous past is literally coming back to bite him on the arse.

    Posted by Augustus | August 7, 2009, 22:50
  79. [deleted - anti-semitic]

    Posted by nigger jimmy | August 10, 2009, 17:24
  80. Christianity has no place in liberal party.

    The liberal party is for ppl who actually have liberal ideals.

    Fascist social retards like McCoy, Dyga and Armstrong have no place in the party and should be sent to some nut job party like the CDP.

    Boys, Fred Nile awaits your presence.

    Posted by Sepulchre | August 10, 2009, 17:30
  81. Sepulchre – your’e sooooooooo spot on.

    I don’t even know why Christians are allowed to vote. Or for that matter why anyone that believes in any religion should be allowed to vote.

    Only atheists should be able to vote and run for public office.

    That is so liberal and enlightened now, isn’t it?

    Posted by Anon | August 10, 2009, 18:01
  82. Hey Catriona (Sepulchre) it’s easy to say these things under false names on the web.

    I bet you don’t have the guts to move a motion at Young Liberal council saying Christians have no place in the Liberal Party.

    Come on Catriona and how mainstream the Libertarian Ambition faction really are.

    Posted by anon | August 11, 2009, 12:23
  83. The soft right are on the ascendancy. We will destroy anyone that stands in our way.

    As I have said before religion has no place in politics and we in the soft right wish to make it clear that the liberal party will abide by this age old rule.

    All religions are inherently evil and that is why I hate them. Legalised abortions, relaxed immigration laws, gay marriage and drug legalisation are the way forward for the liberal party.

    This is 2009 not 1950.

    Posted by Sepulchre | August 11, 2009, 14:53
  84. When I first read the above post I thought this must be joke, Catriona Rafael can’t seriously think saying religion is evil and liberalizing abortion, immigration, gay marriage and drugs is “soft right”.

    But then again everyone knows Ms Rafael is insane.

    It won’t be long until the Libertarian faction is smaller than the group and will be under Photio’s leadership. People like Cat will fit right in.

    Posted by anon | August 11, 2009, 21:46
  85. The group do get a bulk rate on lithium, xanax and prozac, so yes the Libertarians will fit right in. Their lack of ideology would also be appealing to The Group.

    Posted by Augustus | August 11, 2009, 23:17
  86. #

    Hey Catriona (Sepulchre) it’s easy to say these things under false names on the web.

    I bet you don’t have the guts to move a motion at Young Liberal council saying Christians have no place in the Liberal Party.

    Come on Catriona and how mainstream the Libertarian Ambition faction really are.

    Posted by anon | August 11, 2009, 12:23

    I think Graham and Nat have already voted in favour of that one, champion.

    Posted by whom | August 11, 2009, 23:23
  87. I don’t remember there being a motion saying all religion is evil or banning Christians from the Party, or Graham or Nat voting for it. Please provide me with the wording of the motion if I’m wrong.

    Come on if you people really believe you’re as indestructible as you say you are, move a motion at Young Liberal council saying Christians have no place in the Liberal Party. I wonder if Catriona would be willing to tell John Howard to get out of the Liberal Party because he’s a Christian?

    Posted by anon | August 12, 2009, 0:25
  88. I’m not sure about how many times I’ll have to repeat this but here we go again.

    We are the liberals.

    We are liberal economically and socially.

    Simple as that.

    Like it or lump it Bible bashers.

    Posted by Sepulchre | August 12, 2009, 12:26
  89. Look at the talis acting all high and mighty.

    Just remember one thing we won and you lost. You’d better get used to losing too.

    And what’s more we stopped the evil jewwish conspiracy getting their rapacious claws on the coffers of SULC.

    Long live the mainstream conservatives!

    Posted by niggger jimmy | August 12, 2009, 12:36
  90. On and on and on.

    We get it cat you’re a crazy libertarian. You don’t like conservatives. You believe in global warming.

    We heard you the first 50 times you told us.

    Interesting article:

    http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=2&ContentID=93435

    Cat describes the death of a baby whale as “unfortunate”.

    Just wish she could give unborn babies the same kind of sympathy.

    Posted by omg when will cat shut up | August 12, 2009, 13:06
  91. Catriona, if you’re so sure of your view of the party have the guts to say it publicly.

    will you be putting a motion to Young Liberal Council saying the party is a socially liberal party which shouldn’t have any Christians? Yes or no?

    Posted by anon | August 12, 2009, 17:49
  92. The audio shows most of that council supported all Christians being part of the party, except for a few extremists who couldn’t support religious freedom.

    I’m not a young liberal, but I would suspect that the mainstream conservatives and the moderates are led by Christians, so why are people accusing them of trying to get rid of Christians?

    Posted by Anon | August 13, 2009, 14:28
  93. The Ambition Faction (F*cklow, Hack, Uwhore, Holeman) don’t mind Christians being a part of the party just as long as they as they are seen but not heard.

    Apparently opposing abortion and open borders makes you a nutjob conservative.

    The Ambition Faction will push what ever ideology gets them ahead. If Abbot or any other conservative takes control of the party just you watch them wriggling back into their old political positions.

    Posted by Henry | August 14, 2009, 14:01
  94. Selfish
    Covetous
    Out of work
    Tight-arse
    Troubled

    Fat
    Artirficial
    Rapacious
    Lazy
    Obnoxious
    Worthless

    Posted by Wise Man | August 14, 2009, 18:25
  95. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25963578-5013945,00.html

    - The current NSW young liberals prez is a spineless, slimy fat loser who is going no where fast (Penny you should dump him, he’s worse than the homo you were with before!).

    Good to see that he’s following party rules that haven’t even been adopted yet.

    Posted by Rod Stewart fan | August 22, 2009, 15:41
  96. How is the Ambition faction “mainstream conservative’?

    Even ‘Sepulchre’ / Catriona Rafael asserted that “Legalised abortions, relaxed immigration laws, gay marriage and drug legalisation are the way forward”; values of which sound more like the Greens then a mainstream conservative party. If you’re going to employ the image of John Howard on your ticket, at least concur with the basic values of which he represents and fought to protect.

    We stand for the true Liberal Party values, and they include Judeo/Christian values, which our nation was founded on.

    Regards,
    Unknown

    Posted by Unknown | August 22, 2009, 22:58
  97. Hawke’s boys know they’ve bitten off more than they can chew and are fighting a battle they have no hope of ever winning.

    It’s funny that they’ve accused the true conservatives of being facists when it seems that Hawke, Farlow and Campbell are acting like paranoid dictators intent on crushing dissent and marginalising their opposition.

    First they try and block members joining out of area branches, then they introduced their policy to block members speaking out on internal issues, then came the infamous “Mugabe Clause” whereby it is now much harder to boot out the exec of a branch and members preselected by a branch can be overuled by the state exec.

    Now in typical fascist style they’ve crossed another ethical bridge and are resorting to violence to contain the resistance from their factional foes.

    Well done ambition faction, Robert Mugabe would be pround.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25971690-2702,00.html

    Posted by Capital "C" Conservative | August 24, 2009, 18:16

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