One of the main reasons that both major parties are having problems dealing with climate change is that neither have any belief that there is any climate change!

Being a science-based issue, no pollie has any clear understanding of the issue in the ALP or Liberal Party. There is a reliance on second-hand info from staffers who get a hotch-potch of science from various “experts”.

I hate to say it but it is an issue that the Greens have a better handle on….and that’s a clear indication how out of touch both parties are!

I was going to say the same as Clingwrap but in the context of the statement ‘Rudd is able to crack the whip reasonably effectively on the issue because of the benefits of being in government’… I don’t think being in government has much to do with it… its a bit hard for Turnbull to be cracking any whips when he and the Liberal party have their heads buried so deep in the sand we’ll shortly be able to pump ground water directly from their anal passages.
At least Rudd pays lip service to science even if his policies are somewhat pre-enlightenment.

I’m sure P.J.K would appreciate climate change being couched in terms of operatic style music.

http://mothypress.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/ets-past-the-point-of-no-return-or-is-it/

Personally I reckon the science to show there is any global warming caused by humans is very thin.

That said, I would still favour a world with less pollution.

bbbuuuuuuuuurrrrrpppppppppppp

I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.
I believe in climate change.

The more I say the more I belive it.
Get out while you can LOSER!!

Anonymous, your first sentence I totally agree with – the REAL evidence on the ground is in fact OPPOSITE to there being a causal link between anthropogenically produced atmospheric CO2 and so-called global warming.

But I, too, agree with your sentiment that less pollution would be fine – particularly REAL pollutants like SO2, NO2, N2O, H2S etc, etc, etc. But PLEASE remember, CO2 is NOT a pollutant – without it, you will NEVER grow a tree, or harvest a grain field! And also please remember that EVERY time a human exhales, we breath out a fair load of good old CO2.

It (CO2) is an essential gas in the human condition AND the photosynthesis process, so let’s stop this talk about CO2 being a pollutant.

The tide is starting to turn on this early 21st Century hoax/swindle. Sometime soon, thiose who promulgated the AGW theory are going to be seeking a place to hide. Away from the wrath of those long suffering taxpayers and citizens they have been both scaring witless with the supposed predicted impending catastrophic end of the planet, and who they have been endeavouring to completely deceive.

Cheers,
Observer.

Observer,

I agree, the science just isnt there to demonstrate a link between industrialisation and any global warming, in fact global warming hasnt been proved either.

My comment about being less pollution, I was thinking about at the time a coal fired power station – what chemicals it must release.

In a utopian world I would like to see less chemicals pumped into the atmosphere but we need to find ways to do this that doesn’t lead to the average citizen being bent over yet again.

I no it’s all bullshit the only thing that’s real is the Brallians.

Agree with you Malcolm T

Cut your losses and run. otherwise you’ll be digging yourself deeper into the ditch.

The Nationals already have made that start and you need to understand that most people are sceptical.

The loud, active Greens who push this tripe, do not represent anyone other than themselves

Do it, Malcolm now, for the sake of our party otherwise we’ll be dead in the water for at least a decade.

What worries me is that Cardbon Dioxide is building up in the atmosphere and it IS a greenhouse gas. Does that explain what is happening to glaciers, artic ice cap, record temperatures?

I’d watch it but i find the opening theme music and graphics too annoying.

Im queer

“…what was once called global-warming”

Hey, if you can’t keep up with all these polysyllabic terms, you could always try reporting on something a bit more in your league. Is that a cat stuck in a tree I hear?

When will that extreme right winger Alex Hawke reveal climate change as the left wing scam it really is.

The ETS is a tax on everything that will do no good but keep a few inner city wankers quiet for a while.

It looks like you cant keep him down Newham now turns up in the Federal arena. Not many know about the dark horse master back room boy Rick Brown who has a long history of getting it right. Interesting combination

As the new Shadow Minister for Climate Change in Team Ted, I plan to make a big difference to the debate on this issue.

Oh no wait a minute. I’m ugly and boring and have no talent.

Liberal Party policy tomorrow? Let’s guess … ummmm… a “Greener, Cheaper, Smarter ETS” is no ETS.

I’m getting sick of various idiots (particularly Greens) getting up and screaming out that “climate change” is real, when they have no scientific background. True scientists would realise that “climage change” is a theory, not a fact. No scientific theory can ever be proven – it may well be disproven tomorrow. However, you can say that there is strong evidence suggesting that the theory it is true (and so policy should be based around that).

It’s time we had a few more pollies who come from a scientific background, especially given environmental issues the nation faces.

Never mind climate change. Let’s give some attention to the latest escapades of our former leader and resident dope SN. I’ve never seen so many jokes on one webpage: http://www.cpistrategic.com.au/?page_id=5
Have you?

Why is everyone worried about Carbon? It is inert. Carbon Dioxide and methane are the problem gases.

Pity that Steve and Rick didn’t get a bigger run. These guys will tell you tomorrow who will win in 2010 – and why.

Victoria had better hope I don’t get pre-selected, otherwise you can be guaranteed anything I touch will be screwed up, as wot happens in my role snuggling up to Peter B

Even as His Excellency, Commissioner McPerton, based in San Fran, I still exert immense influence over the Victorian Opposition, through my proxy, Mary Wooldridge.

McPerton I fondly remember the time we shared in the public lavatory in Hyde Park.

Observer: Actually, you’re incorrect. Any substance that is present in an environment abnormally, or in abnormal quantities/concentrations, is a pollutant to that environment.

Hence, CO2 is a pollutant.

Spud: You may want to check your definition of “theory”, given that in science, a theory is as close to a fiat accompli as you can get.

Unless all you bastards have a scientific background to rest upon, you don’t really have the qualifications to say “AGW isn’t real”.

I endorse Turnbull/Rudd on climate

http://www.smh.com.au/national/highflying-lib-linked-to-hitler-video-fracas-20091109-i5gp.html

Bye bye Noel!

Bye bye Charles!

Bye bye Thomas!

loved the bit on 4corners when Newnham says “you can assume there’s a s-s-s-significant vote for the Greens”

Senator Malice Pain linked to bribes for visas scandal.

Italian Mafia was paying certain liberal politicians kick backs for visas.

Malice Pain has got to go!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/vanstone-quizzed-in-mafia-case-20091109-i5d1.html

Malcolm needs to harden the f*ck up.

Little l liberal loser. Give the voters what they want – a government that cuts taxes, brutalises criminals and illegals, gets dole bludgers and abos off their arses, purge left wing thinking out of the education systme and stops latte sippers aborting babies.

Grow some balls Malcolm. Stand your ground and tell Kev and that lezzo Penny Wong where they can stick their ETS.

bbuuurrrrrppppppp! burppp!

I thought I looked just great last night on the television. A number of my friends have called to say how macho and slim I looked. What did you all think?

Posted by Spud | November 9, 2009, 22:40

Climate change is as real as gravity, and in fact we have a better explanation for the former than the latter.

Climate change *may* be real, but man-made climate change isn’t.

Crackpot ideas like emission trading schemes belong in a cardboard box labelled “ACME”, delivered to one Wile-E-Coyote.

I hope Andrew Jefferies isn’t planning a career in journalism after his stint at council ends. He can’t even get his story straight. Firstly it’s Charlie you’re trying to knife not Dominic (Charlie’s the one who works with Clarke) and secondly you’ve failed again with the spelling – it’s spelt P-E-R-R-O-T-T-E-T.

http://hills-shire-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/alex-hawke-lashes-out-at-libs-video-nasty/

“Since the collapse of communism, the left have been looking for a new cause to champion in an attempt to de-industrialise western countries – and they have found it in environmentalism” Nick Minchin.

That’s the most accurate and astute thing I have ever heard a politician say.

One day “Climate Science” will rank with “Creation Science” in its obvious stupidity.

Then again, at least Creationists act out of faith. Those trough-swilling pseudo-academic sciangelists on last night’s Four Corners episode had as much trouble hiding their self interest as a lighthouse does hiding its beam. Hmmm. Unless the beam has been changed to those totally useless, but “environment friendly” fluorescent fittings.

Let’s take those heads of climate institutes, sustainability institutes and all the other temples of fakery and make them personally liable for the damage done by their scare-mongering. A lien over their houses and rich superannuation and we’ll soon see how dedicated they are!

The funny thing is that you’ll find a high level of correlation between creationists and global warming deniers. Both ignore overwhelming scientific consensus because doing otherwise would be to allow holes to creep into their dogmatic ideology (be it Christianity or capitalism).

Shut up Sheridan Levy (Catriona Rafael).

Just because you’ve studied fish for a while at uni doesn’t make you an expert on climate science.

Even if global warming is true, I doubt we can do anything about it.

If you want to really reduce your carbon footprint try killing urself.

Oh please, I wouldn’t use such a twee name as “Sheridan”!

*yourself

Catriona some wise words from your factional master:

“People say it’s a broad church. My response to that is you’ve got to agree it’s a church. It’s not a brothel, for instance. If people want to legalise drug-injecting rooms, lower the age of consent, go with all these trendy things, this is not the party that believes in those things. We’re not that broad.”

- Alexander Hawke, Federal Member for Mitchell.

“Just because you’ve studied fish for a while at uni doesn’t make you an expert on climate science.

Even if global warming is true, I doubt we can do anything about it.”

I hope you’ve got some climate qualifications to back up that assertion, because this smells a lot like hypocrisy.

“If you want to really reduce your carbon footprint try killing urself.”

Lovely, you’ve clearly not got a law degree, either. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/num_act/ccarmoa2005452/sch1.html

Posted by hawkehunter | November 10, 2009, 19:42

Some sage advice from your favourite TV character:
“Greetings, I’m The Count, and I love to count! One, two, three, three bats! AH-AH-AH!”

I only failed three subjects this semester!
Stacking chairs and branches is stressful.

With Hork up my Ass how else should I feel, he normally likes to be up there.
Maybe cause he a Greeeeek. And I thought it was Global Warming.

Why did you have to go to the RSPCA to get a wife. I hope she has been micro chipped.
It was good to see her playing with Kirsty in the FEC meeting I was not certain that K 9s were allowed at political meetings.
WOOF WOOF WOOF.

Here’s a way to understand Rudd’s Carbon ETS tax and the junk science on which it’s based:

Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere that we want to rid of human carbon pollution,. We’ll have a walk along it.

The first 770 metres are nitrogen.

The next 210 metres are oxygen.

That’s 900 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.

The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.

9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.

The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre – that’s carbon dioxide.

A bit over one foot.

97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It’s natural.

Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left. About half an inch. Just over a centimetre.

That’s the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into the atmosphere.

And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.

Less than the thickness of a hair. Our of a kilometre.

For that, Australian farmers will lose about $11000 per year in income and dairy farms in particular have $10,000 per year added to their energy costs. All of which will be added to the cost of our food. The scheme will cost 7,500 mining jobs in NSW and Queensland and 6,000 in WA. Australian mining companies are also liable for carbon produced by overseas mines which they own.

Citizen
I told you to stop with the Greek jokes.
Has she been wormed yet.
WOOF WOOF WOOF
i LIKE TO DO IT DOGGGGGGIE.

My methane emissions always escape much more easily after a night of bath house fun in Sydney. No noisy ones for me, the wide passage and ease of exit means my methane gets out noise free! The sound of smelly silence tells me someones had a great night in (me)!

MUUUM – I like smelly ones, don’t I Citizen — get down and do it doggie with me.
I don’t like Ray or Phartios any more. Its you and only you for me.

Lord Byron has apparently not heard the parable of the straw that broke the camel’s back.

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Nick have you visited your Proctologist lately, if you haven’t I can help you.
I have been looking up a few old friends lately.
Always love you Tali

Keep that dog out of here Andrew.

can you all please stop bitching at each other… “Byron in Wahroonga” illustrates the point perfectly!

Why does Justin Simon, a member of Alex Hawke’s faction support pedophilia?

Why was Justin Simon’s original facebook profile in the name of ‘Dennis Ferguson’?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_9KSS9vPA&feature=channel

These must be the ‘moderate’ values the Ambition Faction is on about.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You guys really need to look up trolling in the dictionary.

And realise it was all a part of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2415487.htm

Idiots.

Bit upset that we made fun of your hero Oldfield?

General hint when impersonating someone: be sure to spell their name correctly.

It’s great having my mate Hawke down with me in Canberra to keep me warm on the chilly winter nights. Occasionally even Ben Franklin drops by for a bit of menage a trois.

I prefer my men old and wrinkly like Alan.

I think I might have left my anal beads over at your place Pissy – do you mind if I drop by and pick em – let’s just hope you remembered to wash them this time,

Last year Justin did change his facebook identity to that of a convicted peddo.

But it actually wasn’t the one you referred to.

Posted by Catriona Rafeal | November 10, 2009, 22:39

Come now, Nathaniel, if there were any substance to these allegations you’d be prepared to put your name to them, surely?

OK Freedom Fighter lets say for argument’s sake Justin was “trolling”

(Can you define it exactly in one line for me?)

How does that exonerate him? It’s still unacceptable to joke about that stuff and a very bad look for any party/faction to be represented by such a person.

So even if you are right there is still a problem here.

Justin is a political liability.

I’d say the biggest political liabilities are those anonymously smearing the party over the Internet. Put your name to your statements and I’ll respond to them.

Trolling: “Saying shit to get a rise out of someone”

Justin you are a liability

#

I hope Andrew Jefferies isn’t planning a career in journalism after his stint at council ends. He can’t even get his story straight. Firstly it’s Charlie you’re trying to knife not Dominic (Charlie’s the one who works with Clarke) and secondly you’ve failed again with the spelling – it’s spelt P-E-R-R-O-T-T-E-T.

http://hills-shire-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/alex-hawke-lashes-out-at-libs-video-nasty/

Posted by Craig | November 10, 2009, 16:35

U-N-E-M-P-L-O-Y-E-D

in that case he could easily get a job with alan jones, who’s stories are even less straight than he is

I think that Robert Mugabe would make a better local member for Baulkulm Hills than Andrew Jefferies. At least he has half a brain in his head.

AVAILABLE: Online media expert with too much time on his hands. Not afraid to down and dirty. No job too small or petty.

Contact: Tom Tudehope (by phone, not email, David’s told me to stop using it)

Then again, I do love it in the batty

I suppose if nothing else has come out of this whole thing at least Tommy will be able to give Failow and Fontana some company in the dole line.

Don’t forget Perrottet

i love fish fingers!

I think that Robert Mugabe would make a better local member for Baulkulm Hills than Andrew Jefferies. At least he has half a brain in his head.

Posted by Craig | November 11, 2009, 15:13

Toolshed, you are in no position to criticise AJ. At least he got elected to Council and actually does something for the community.

What do you do with your life? Sit around on your fat backside writing on Vex all day? You are just a useless, good for nothing bum who wants to get it on with Chad Sydler and the infamous Craig Sorensen.

Move on and do something constructive with your life you tragic excuse for a human being.

Where’s Craig Sorensen?

My theme song.

When I am PM one day they will play it whenever I enter a room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8&feature=related

That guy who got sacked by Clarke for distributing the youtube clip

The other guy who got sacked. He used to work for Malcolm Turnbull and his Dad’s campaign for the seat of Baulkham Hills now lies in smoking ruins.

Andrew I told you not to bring your DOG in to work.
She had fleas last time had kept licking her behind, the way you lick mine.
AND I DON’T LIKE THAT – I don’t mean you licking me, it’s just I don’t want you licking anyone else.
You know how irrational and mad I get when I am under pressure.

Is it amazing we can sit in an Electoral office that is paid for by the Tax Payer all day and night sending things into a Blog site!!
Love Alex

Alex that’s not fair to say those things. You told me I have a good tongue.
You told me Mark would have to lick me when I am the member for Baulkham Hills.
I hope Wayne does not find out that you have promised the seat to me.
Now we are back on this again, trying to remember who you have promised the seats to.
I am confused.
ANDY

“The lovechild of Michael Davis” I wasn’t the person who wrote the piece you were commenting on. I put my name to 100% of what I write (often this gets me in trouble but who cares). I applaud ANYONE who goes into public life regardless of who they are and as a proud Liberal I support ANY and ALL Liberal councilors wherever they may be. So your point is ludicrous.

I won’t dignify the comments re. Chad and Craig.

On the issue of being a bludger though as I have said before, I am proud to be a carer, but resent it being portrayed as a bludge job by people like you and then there is my paid employment in the private sector as well on top of that, the engine room of our economy no less.

As I say don’t judge what you don’t understand and may you never have to care for one you love in a full-time capacity, it’s stressful, poorly-paid and the support you get is never enough, even though it is often rewarding and always appreciated by the only person who really matters, the care recipient.

Regards,

Michael Davis.

lucky-as-larry@hotmail.com

Andrew we had better stop using our real names people will find out who is Blogging.
Don’t you think I am as good looking as Rove, I do.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Push harder Andrew You know I love DOGGIE.
Say WOOF WOOF WOOF Amanda. I will get you a new Collar from Pets World on Friday and I will give you some Supercoat and Pigs ears to chew on.
Stop wagging your tail it distracts me.

I like CATS that go POOF more than dogs. I call them POOFY CATS.
Like in the ARMY — now that’s another STORY!!!!!

Don’t get me upset. You know I break out and start speaking in German when I rant like a looooooooony.
Citizen Can I watch you next time your with your dog. Alex

Chad, shouldn’t you be off failing uni?

wow, good effort, slander against two politicians and one of their wives. you guys must be getting REALLY desperate. the fact that you have failed to do anything besides recruit the malignant old fart jones to your cause shows just how pathetic you all are. were you on fire i wouldn’t take the time to piss on you to put you out.

plus, the gay jokes are about as funny as chad is attractive to the opposite sex

I enjoy name calling.

My specialty is calling female Young Liberals sluts, dogs and whores

All women hate me. They tell me I smell.

Why don’t women like me?

Don’t tell Clarke, Marie and Smith about my “special” issues.

speaking of gay jokes, alan jones is going to look even more like an idiot bigot when you guys have all gone down

You guys I’ve got a great link for you all:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=654257

Absolutely spot on analysis of this lesbian drivin crimate change socialist world illuminati plan

Thanks Chad, we all know that you’re an extremist. Now F%^@ off and join One Nation!

What’s wrong with One Nation?

I wonder if John Hopoate could give me a hand?

I wish to reply to the comments from the despicable person who uses the “Concerned” pseudonym above.

You asked when Alex Hawke will speak out against an ETS, my answer is that he already has. You can watch his speech from June 2009 on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANELdLAtNRA

“every scientific report that I read is conflicted”

“it is something we want to replicate without a punitive and harsh emissions trading scheme that will threaten so many jobs within this country.”

If you’d like to read more from Alex Hawke you can go here to read his most recent speech on the matter (OCTOBER)

http://www.openaustralia.org/debates/?id=2009-10-28.73.2&s=speaker%3A10290#g95.1

“From the outset I want to make it very clear that I am strongly opposed to what I regard as the Rudd government’s proposals to implement a carbon tax, a new and complex tax in my view that will add to the size and scope like no other measure in Commonwealth history.”

“What we know is that the government’s emissions trading scheme is deeply flawed. I accept today that it is true that many people are caught up in the idea that an ETS could solve a perceived problem with climate change caused by humans. It is a thesis that I want to reject today in a number of ways…”

Alex Hawke has a record which puts the Taliban to shame because the taliban only care about stacking out Young Liberal branches and leaking lies to Imre Salusinszky.

Crime doesn’t pay boys.

As per usual, there are CONVIENIENT Truths???? coming out of the office of the member for Mitchell.
How can any person in the community believe anything that comes out of that office, amazes me.
The hypocrisy of this person Alex Hawke is stunning, he congratulated the ex-mayor of Baulkham Hills Sony Phillips in Federal Parliament and previously, he was condemning her.
Please look up the following link:
http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/reps/dailys/dr190309.pdf

Now he is condemning Climate Change? Can you believe him, I don’t.
Will he condemn, then applaud the boat people next?

Most of the people in his electorate don’t believe him anymore.
He lost a great margin from 20% plus to 9% in the last Federal election in 2007.
A margin the Honorable Alan Cadman had gained after 30 years representing the community not his faction of 1.

I don’t believe Hawke and neither should you.

chad, noone calls you rove, what a weak nickname. people actually LIKE rove.

I think it’s actually quite appropriate. They’re both annoying little gimps who show up everywhere, aren’t funny, haven’t had a great deal of luck with women and appeal only to the most sheepish common denominator.

“Carl Johnson”

Are you some sort of idiot?

i am sick of reading this blog and seeing lots of posts “accredited ” to me.

I have better things to do then post on this website.

If you really want to be cynical. look at the time that “i” posted. 254pm. Funny thing is is that at 254pm i was sitting outside an exam room waiting for my 3pm exam.

You are all pathetic.

Grow up and stop fighting each other under the disguise of anonymity and blaming me for all the posts.

Regardless to what you may actually think, i have better things to do then plot and post on here. I know some of you (and you know who you are) have big egos and think i have nothing better to do then waste my time on here. Well you are wrong.

All of you should :

1.) Stop posting on here, you are doing nothing to help the party all you are doing is causing further damage and the media love to feast on internal conflict. Please keep in mind we actually have a Federal election coming up next year and a state election the year after that. You all think you are high and mighty but did it ever occur to you that one day perhaps the site will hand over the IP Addresses associated with accounts to the lib party and that they could then mirror those up to logins onto the members section of the liberal party site and thus identify who really has said things that break party rules?

2.) Did you also ever think that we actually do have to try and get along and put aside your petty differences and work together to achieve victory on polling day. Or do you all just not care about that? I mean just because some of you are incompetent (and we know who you are – you really should talk to people before you outright attack them) doesn’t mean you have to bring yourself down as well as the party by posting on here.

You all say you want to boost party recruitment and get the party to interact with the local community, if you want to achieve that you need to behave like civil human beings and set a good example.

At the moment you are all failing at that, making a huge embarassment of the party and doing nothing to help our electoral chances and you are annoying the heck out of me by making dodgy posts and then blaming me for them.

Seriously get over ourselves

and stop doing it, if not for me, then for the party, for our future.

Chad Sidler

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Good one, Chad, tell another.

if it wasn’t chad… then who was phone?

It was me!

Whilst i am copping it in the date in the slammer, i troll on the web and think fondly of my mother.

And you would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for us meddling Patriots and our Chad!

has anyone seen my beef curtains?

Good on Chad for showing the nads to reveal himself.

WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF AAAAAAAWOOOOOO
Amanda keep quite you will wake the neighbors and stop scratching yourself or I’ll lock you in the Kennel and Alex will yell at you in German and try to intimidate you.

Amanda if you don’t keep quite, your going back to the RSPCA tomorrow

The Chad makes a fair point.

2.) Did you also ever think that we actually do have to try and get along and put aside your petty differences and work together to achieve victory on polling day. Or do you all just not care about that? I mean just because some of you are incompetent (and we know who you are – you really should talk to people before you outright attack them) doesn’t mean you have to bring yourself down as well as the party by posting on here.

You all say you want to boost party recruitment and get the party to interact with the local community, if you want to achieve that you need to behave like civil human beings and set a good example.

At the moment you are all failing at that, making a huge embarassment of the party and doing nothing to help our electoral chances and you are annoying the heck out of me by making dodgy posts and then blaming me for them.

Thanks for the lecture, Chad. However, when you personally post the remarks about someone’s wife as you continue to do, it just reinforces to everyone that you are a stupid little c%&# with no life or friends. Remember, there are other ways to detect people’s posts on here, not just IP addresses.

If nothing else this factional battle will be a boon for the party’s war chest and hence will help us win the NSW election.

Every stack has to pay a membership fee which is far higher than the direct costs associated with keeping that member.

The moral of this story is that at least on a financial level a factional battle is not all bad news.

clap clap clap. just as well hawke got back in last night, that little fop you tried to pass off as a candidate against him was pathetic. all of what you have done is in vain. what were the votes, 55-12? great job with all that branch stacking. chad – stick to the chairs, you’re actually semi capable of that.

Mark Lewis again.

still wrong! none of you have any idea who really posts as citizen! i’ll give you a hint: i’m not an actual staffer or politician, nor a relative or friend. hmm, that’s making me sound a bit like charlie now isn’t it? i’ll round that off, i am employed.
and why are you so keen on portraying moderates as socialists? really, you just make yourself look like a political bigot.

Cut out the cr*p Lewis.

We all know it’s you. Stop wasting your time pretending it’s not.

Posted by fingerbang | November 14, 2009, 23:50

I think you’ll find Mark Lewis was actually at his birthday party at the time that was posted.

Lewis everyone knows it was you so shut the f*ck up.

You probably used your phone at the “party” to jump on vex so you’d have an excuse.

Knowing you I’d imagine that you were partying on your own.

Posted by fingerbang | November 15, 2009, 15:14

Even partying alone would have to top sitting on vex for the entirety of your Saturday evening, refreshing continuously. I mean there’s only a 2 minute delay between citizen’s post and your response.

come on fingerbang, try a little harder than that. just because you keep yelling that it’s lewis doesn’t make it so. your little hissy fits amuse me. continue.

LEWIS.

caps lock is cruise control for awesome.

CITIZEN = MARK LEWIS

has anyone seen my husband? i last heard he was in the public loo with Alan Jones