The rebel NUW led faction of the Victorian Labor Right are believed to have declared their support for rebel Left preselection candidate for Altona, Luba Grigorovitch.
The Hobson’s Bay councillor has – according to locals – door-knocked fiercely through the pathetically small number of branch members and will go in to Wednesday’s ballot with convincing levels of support, locals say.
With nominations closing today for the preselection, it is almost certain that the young councillor will face off against the Premier’s pick, former Party President Jill Hennessy.
Hennessy’s backers in the leadership of the Socialist Left – with both Carr and Griffin strongly supporter her – are hoping that local lefty hard-heads will be sufficient in number to give Jill enough votes to prevail with the Socialist Left and Labor Unity’s support on the POSC.
Luba’s local army swears it has 80% of the votes in the bag, but this does seem unlikely.
The NUW group, including the SDA and forces aligned with Senator David Feeney, are desperate to break up the “stability deal” between the SL and Labor Unity and seem willing to disrupt any process even if it inconveniences occasional allies and Strangers’ Corridor chat-buddies in the Griffin part of the Left.
They are not supporting Luba because of her good looks and charm, however unchallenged those attributes may be.
It’s an example of just how precarious that group’s position can be. Being an agent for disruption can be amusing but also weakens the relationships they have with the Griffin Left and within the Premier’s office where they seem to have more barrackers than the average cheer squad. It leaves the latter group looking a little embarrassed and struggling for explanations.
Some had thought that the Premier’s old chum, former Senator Robert Ray who had become a lobbyist at CPR Communications had influenced JB into regretting his support for the stability deal.
This Altona situation, where the Premier and his office are backing in Jill Hennessy, arguing she is the most accomplished of the available candidates, highlights that in almost every situation stability and certainty is exactly what the Leader wants. Preferably a stability and certainty they are imposing themselves.
The NUW group, bristling with talent in the state caucus with ministers Holding, Pallas and Pakula emerging as some of its strongest performers, has a contradiction to manage.
As their parliamentary talent rises to the very top, they will increasingly want to be part of the leadership group. When their organisational representatives outside of Spring Street make it easy for them to be sledged as wreckers and agents of disruption, it no doubt makes all three of the rising stars very nervous indeed.
Luba Grigorovitch you can txt me anytime for a ride home honey, wld be hot.
Luba can solicit my vote – [deleted]
Is it possible for any woman on this site not to be commented on in crude terms (eg: anon 13:04pm)? The RDR ride home running gag is fun enough but let’s refrain from getting too vulgar. Thanks.
We agree. Nasty comments will be deleted.
Jill used to be a very buxom psuedo socialist at uni – is that still the case? And what ever happend to her offsider, Edwina ….?
I love it when the plans of the big end of town are derailed by ‘people power’. Go Luba!
look at this!
She’s a nothing. Cuz Luba reckons she looks hot she thinks she should get ahead in politics.
All front no substance.
Jill Hennessy may be a great candidate, however Luba is a local and she is running to support the local community. I would prefer that then Would be great to have a young determined lady representing our ward.
They should fight it out mma cage match style.. HOgwart Hennessy V I wont budge princess luba. Hennessy would get dirty first, land a few punches whilst Luba tries to summons orgone energy from the ether for one devastating smackdown. The only question is can she hold on long enough?
Interesting concept anonymous….and the answer is: yes she can!
You boys love the prospect of a ‘cat fight’ dont you?
fark yeah
Why is it that after so many years Jill hasn’t been able to consolidate enough support in any given seat to gain pre-selection. Couldn’t be bothered eh. Or is she too prickly?
Just thought of a great catchphrase: Vote Labour Vote Luba. Has a nice ring to it hey.
Wouldn’t mind Luba-in up before having a go at Luba!
just wait for the central panel
This is wrong! If the general population want Luba – and they obviously do (both Labor & non Labor voters elected her on Council in a history making win on first preferences alone) then why not giver her a go! Other Labor supported candidates seeking election on her council with her did not even get elected, let alone “wipe the floor” with her mature, educated opponents the way she did! She is already an experienced campauigner that has proved her worth. We should be worrying about keeping the vote in the area for Labor, not fighting over trying to parachute someone in!
Jill had it right the first time -a federal seat in the sth east is your destiny. Forget Altona Jill take Bruce.
means nothing getting a high primary vote at Council elections get over it. Parachuting works in the west!!
Mmmm Luba will be in my dreams (wet) tonight.
Luba, you have my vote purely on looks.
fight!
Luba let me lube up your arse then we r both ‘in’.
Putting in’Sell out’ labor yuppies works just fine for the west suburbs…that is why the streets are so safe at night, schools failing apart from neglect and the trains are rubbish…..while our yuppie labor MPs and Ministers sleep safely in Ivanhoe and bayside suburbs like black rock.
Some western suburb ALP heroes even live interstate…
Basically in safe labor seats our representation is outsourced to people who will never be impacted by sub standard services.
Go Luba….a young local self starter will be better than any ‘third time around’ ALP hack.
parachuting works like our trains.
who cares? it comes down to who knows who and whats best for the party.
being a local is a great advantage, but not a requirement.
nuff said
Go Luba we need a person like you in this position as we can see how you have got things done while being on the council.The Labor party will have an asset in you.we will be voting for Luba.
I implore the POSC to support the wishes of the local ALP voters and members on Wednesday. Please mirror their vote.
princess luba = loss
hogwart hennessy = loss
Luba is very intelligent and very aware of what the people of Altona care about. Ms Hennessy is just a hack. Another lawyer.
Go Luba. You have my full support
As an Altona voter give me Hennessy anyday over Princess Luba
Basic labor and human values are noted for their absence on this website and in the modern ALP elite and in whatever dodgy arrangements currently pass for democracy in the ALP.
The neglect of basic services in our safe labor suburbs is directly related to a self serving party elite that is unaccountable, aloof and distant from locals, hostile to unions and that is cynically manipulative of working class migrants.
And come on… ‘Best for the party’ is short hand for ‘best for me’.
Who cares! It is just a case of old hack vs new hack niether have any experience in the real world just like the majority of ALP MPs
Fight to the end Luba! Walk with your head held high no matter what the outcome. Whatever you do DO NOT FALL to your knees and ON YOUR SWORD as the male Labor movers and shakers are pressuring you to do almost hourly I understand. Stand your ground woman. Blow the winds of change thru those dusty old halls and up over those Gucci shoes, up the pants legs of those male’s who would eat their own young! Look what they have succeeded in doing…nothing more than pitting the Labor women together against each other. Shame on you all, any wonder you need a set of steel ones like Luba to even step up! All this going on, while the Lib’s get on with their campaign and work the electorate. There really are no fools like old fools!
luba, Luba, LUBA ooohhhh yesssss……
Just what we need more stinking migrants in State Parliament.
Luba Grigorovitch is the best thing to happen to labor in Victoria for the past 10 Years. She is young, intelligent, and is not a two time loser for pre-selection.She won her local council seat in a land slide,and works her butt off for her electors. Give her a break Brumby. None of you may be their for much longer anyway.
Dear naive ‘who cares?’
Talent and ability?
real world experience?….
Come on sweetheart we are talking about the surreal world of ALP pre selections after all.
How many male MPs are more qualified than the two candidates on offer here.
Apart from being silent about their constituents exactly what does the average male ALP MP do?
(And I am not talking about late tours of parliament with young vulnerable women.)
Even some of our top male MPs are now a liability going into an election.
Maybe having some MPs with no experience of running public transport, public health and public education into the ground could be an advantage.
After all when this train wreck finally comes to an end – the ALP will need people who can present who are not connected with the current wasted 10 years in power.
Who cares? – My assessment about ability and talent applies to ALP MPs of both sexes
If you want to know what’s happening within the AlP just ask Luke Donnellan. He knows everything and controlls everything from his little kingdom in Narre Warren
So Luba is a ‘local’ hey? Should that mean a person actually lives in Altona?
All of you Luba supporters should ask her over the past 12 months how many nights a week Luba has spent in the city appartment?
If she lies to your face maybe she is political material after all.
Luba is my neighbour, can’t miss her she’s hot.
One more thing Luba, rumour has it that Melbourne will be up soon, you should consider sucking up for that, I suggest you would be a top candidate and of course a true ‘local’.
24, still lives at home and only ever held a job in a political office?
You locals are captured and off balance – I hope POSC gets it right (for once) and selects Jill.
take 2….
So Luba is an Altona ‘local’ hey?
Well then how does she explain the fact that she is my neighbour and I live in an apartment in the city??????
I see her almost every day coming home and some mornings(can’t miss a hot chick and she has a cute smile).
If a person is going to trade on being a ‘true local’, as I suspect is happening, then shouldn’t the person actually live in the electorate?
I don’t know the rules but imagine the VEC may be interested in this one….
Hey Luba, I imagine Melbourne will be available soon, you would be an excellent candidate against those pesky Greens, and I swear to prove that you are a true blue ‘local’.
hey anon, where in the city does she live, dont need exact address but rough area..
Disgruntled, you sound unhappy, and I dont want any Labor hard hitters knocking on my door. You should look in the trendy bits close to the Yarra.
Luba, unfortunatly for me, lives with her lucky bastard boyfriend and I think his name is John (sorry dont pay much attention to him).
Actually I didn’t know who she was until I saw her picture on this site.
…there goes any chance of me getting lucky……
geezus a giant truck with 15 foot mark rose posters almost nearly ran me off the road.. its good to see the libs having a shot. but plz stick to the main roads with these things. the last thing you need is to hit a pedestrian in pier st! At least thier putting on a show..
Luba should star in the movie “indecent proposal II”.
haha mark rose’s bus just crashed into a tree outside melissas restaurant in pier st.. bahaha wanka
Well that must be a very expensive optical illusion Luba bought last year and is waiting for the keys to move into…a permanent first home for herself in of all places…Altona! Dirty tricksters playing dirty pranksters here on this site I think. I and many others don’t put it past the big end of town to be posting on or be behind the type of comments, not to mention the pathetically sick and lewd ones getting posted here. After all that is the only way they know how to fight, hiding behind the scenes and throwing stones. Where do you ‘keep them’ these days boys…in a scrap book?
Where are the personal snipes against Hennessy? Why the lies and personal attacks directed at Luba. The orchestrated campaign against her is transparent. I am a labour voter no more if the local Labor membership is ignored.
Hey truth be known you should be used to it by now when has the ALP ever cared about the opinion of members…never. Hennessy will be the candidate and that is that.
More power to Jill Hennessey who has the smarts, articulation and gravitas to become a long term local member and future Minister.
Princess Luba (who has been an ALP member and local councillor for all of about 5 minutes! comes from that altered states planet called the Altona Loopy Left ALP branch and will sink without trace after preselection.
She is known as the Princess of Altona as she manipulates others, treats her fellow Labor councillors with contempt and expects everything delivered to her on a silver platter. WRONG!!!!!!!
Luba will no doubt cry on Altona branch capo “John the Don” Ballestrino’s shoulder given that he has now led her up a dead end track on both the council (where her unholy alliance with the conservative Independents has come unstuck and denied her the Mayoralty forever!!!) as well an embarrassing run and no doubt massive defeat at state preselection.
The NUW are using her as a pawn and in the end only Luba will end up being discarded. To be politically washed up at such a young age – tsk, tsk!
Wait for the tantrum and tears on the front page of the local papers as well as in the middle of Pier Street coming soon!!
Don’t you love it when the boys from ALP head office fight the local branches!!!
Who will win this one???
Grigorovich voted in council against improving public safety at the Altona Beach and should hang her head in shame.
Princess Luba as she is locally known takes her orders from John Ballestrino who works for Kosky and is the faceless Don of the Altona ALP branch. If she gets the nod, the ALP is screwed.
Luba has never had a real job. She’s only ever been employed in Lyn Kosky’s office. She shouldn’t be even considered for pre selection until she’s been out in the big wide world for awhile.
Luba’s never really been a real councillor, she was elected on the effort of the Altona branch in the safest Labor ward in the City of Hobsons Bay.
Luba’s never forged any presence on council except for negative press on the beach safety issue and in deserting her fellow Labor councillors to run along side two conservative independent councillors.
On local assessment, Luba would be lucky to get 20 votes out of her branch (the SL members in a secret ballot will support Jill) and if that’s the case, it would be interesting to see if the NUW continued to support her as the SL and LU would combine to crush her bid on central panel.
The NUW wouldn’t want to put their name to another failed nomination! Luba isn’t worth that much even to the likes of Feeney and the stackers and wackers (NUW)!!
She’s stu**ed any way you cut it!!
What a dessicated human being you must be ‘ALP Insider’ to spread your vile propoganda on behalf of your masters.
Luba voted correctly on the Police issue, is a hard working local member and is well liked throughout the community. She was worked in Private Enterprise and Government employment and has excelled at both. She has also recently won the ‘Business Icon’ award.
When she presents to the POSC today they will see what we already know. That she is strong, intelligent and an incisive, independent thinker.
truth be known
if you were a real Labor voter then you would know that their is no U in LABOR
“and personal attacks directed at Luba. The orchestrated campaign against her is transparent. I am a labour voter no more”
Truth be known,
the truth will be known and it will be Jill Hennessy!
pft what experience does Luba have in private enterprise???
Anonymous 8:40
The facts are that Cr Luba Grigorovich deserves to be singled out and criticised as a local elected person currently seeking higher elected office who has controversially and negligently voted against a short term logical solution of a semi permanent police kiosk on the beach.
I have been a long standing resident (3 generations) of Altona and l can remember the days when you could swim at the beach with the knowledge that you wouldn’t be assaulted, abused, intimidated or worse!! I in fact live two streets back from the beach and am heartily sick of drunks peeing in my front yard, gangs of young hoods invading local beach side parks and taking over the pier.
Luba should be held accountable. She has let down traders, the community and Altona residents like myself.
Anonymous 8:27
The facts are that Cr Luba Grigorovich deserves to be singled out and criticised as a local elected person currently seeking higher elected office who has controversially and negligently voted against a short term logical solution of a semi permanent police kiosk on the beach.
I have been a long standing resident (3 generations) of Altona and l can remember the days when you could swim at the beach with the knowledge that you wouldn’t be assaulted, abused, intimidated or worse!! I in fact live two streets back from the beach and am heartily sick of drunks peeing in my front yard, gangs of young hoods invading local beach side parks and taking over the pier.
Luba should be held accountable. She has let down traders, the community and Altona residents like myself.
Readers, have a look at the facts and don’t believe the BS regurgitated over and over again by ALI. Look at the Council transcipts.
Luba will speak for herself if she is pre-selected but I will tell you this no other Councillor researched the issue better than her or spoke to the major stakeholders before her.
When do I get my seat?
Good to see the corruption of the ALP at work here again.If luba did a monica she might be a chance as JB is attracted to cute members
At least she wouldnt be the worst member in Parliament cause you dont need ability you need numbers just ask Seitz and Nardella.
to ‘ALP macho Cronyism is not Dead yet’ I have no idea where Luba is going to live in the future, I am highlighting that she doesnt currently live in ALtona and hasn’t for a while.
I also note you didn’t defend her current choice of abode…
I’m the Queen of the HSU wheres my seat?
go LUBA your the best candidate 4 altona !! dont give a third time loses in Jill the job
GO LUBA your the best candidate for altona not a 2 time loser in Jill
Mcquarie Fields Women not interested in politics.Like the look of this Luba.How do you pronounce her surname?
lets get today over and done with and hopefully get jill out on the hustings asap.
Don’t waste showing Jill the Melways. It aint going to happen.
Word out of head office this afternoon is that Luba has been greased!
The numbers will now fall behind Jill Hennessy with the SL, LU and hard left supporting Jill.
Jill Hennessy MLA for the State District of Altona will soon hang over the door at the Point Cook office.
John “the Don” Ballestrino and Princess Luba will be soon clearing out their desks!!
The facts are that Cr Luba Grigorovich deserves to be singled out and criticised as a local elected person currently seeking higher elected office who has controversially and negligently voted against a short term logical solution of a semi permanent police kiosk on the beach.
I have been a long standing resident (3 generations) of Altona and l can remember the days when you could swim at the beach with the knowledge that you wouldn’t be assaulted, abused, intimidated or worse!! I in fact live two streets back from the beach and am heartily sick of drunks peeing in my front yard, gangs of young hoods invading local beach side parks and taking over the pier.
Luba should be held accountable. She has let down traders, the community and Altona residents like myself.
Luba has lived with her boyfriend in her city apartment for some time now (we understand that it is in his name).
It is well known around the traps that she hasn’t lived in the municipality in which she is an elected councillor for some time. An informal investigation is being done at present by people who know that she is lying and if evidence is produced, she is in violation of the Local Government Act and the City should remove her and declare her seat vacant.
A person who abuses the law in such a way should NOT be endorsed for higher office. Even if she is endorsed, the press will find out that she has lied as to her residential status. It should make a great head line.
Altona ALP Insider, it doesn’t matter if Luba is preselected or not, her residential status needs to be found out and action taken. Action will be taken.
since when does it matter if an elected official lives their electorate or not
There are some rabbits doing what they do best on this forum (running down rabbit holes. They will be heartily embarassed when they find that instead they have been ‘led down the garden path.
Luba lives with her mother….period. The residential status of others in her life have nothing to do with it and their privacy should be respected.
Now let’s get back to the real question: who will make the best member…..and you all know where I stand on that one.
Seeker of truth, are you a ‘family firster’?
marty 25-18 .It does not matter for State and Federal seats.
But it matters for local Council.
You have to be either a property owner/ratepayer,or a resident of the Municipality you are elected to represent.If you cease to be eligible, you must resign
ALI, Luba hasn’t worked for Kosky for some time! You can’t get anything right can you.
Anonomous, truth is she is also an owner of a property in the area, along with living with her mother….who is a local resident. BOOM BOOM. That is all folks.
Marty is right most MPs do live outside their electoral boundaries as apparently nobody wants to live in the northern or western suburbs where all the safe ALP seats are (well not unless they are maybe in the inner city seats being slowly yuppified and thus vulnerable to Greens challenges). It does show a contempt for the electorate though when you claim to be in touch with the people and yet you think it is beneath you to live in the hood. I reckon one can be generous and cut them some slack if they represent an area and live in an adjoining suburb or the neighbouring more affluent suburb a few kilometres away. I think you are stretching the friendship when you represent struggle street and live in East Melbourne, Middle Park, Kew or Brighton and visit the electorate office once every couple of months using the GPS.
A mute point these days as candidates are increasingly parachuted in.
If Jill Hennessey lives in West Footscray as reported, this is still West so seems fine in terms of representing Altona. A local councillor living outside the electorate seems more problematic though given the grassroot nature of local government.
Ali…getting tired are we. Just resorting to cut and paste now?
I picked my home by where there is plenty of teenage eye candy to study, it had nothing to do with my electoral boundary.
It’s not necessarily the fact that Jill is out of area that is the question it is the way Party heads have pressured local members (my partner being one) to vote for her. A congaline of bigwigs have called members imploring them to desert Luba.
I admire those who have stood firm against this pressure.
I mean, why be a member if local democracy is usurped on the first occasion it is tested.
To Luba’s supporters,dont believe the lies coming from ALI’s fingers. Word is that local members have rallied and the vote will go to the POSC. Go get em Luba, we know you will shine when delivering your speech. I implore, as others have done, for the 100 on the panel to follow Brumby’s recent directive that the POSC support members intentions in pre-selections.
Anonymous 15:30 – is it a question of where a person lives at the time of election to LG office rather then racing out and getting a local address after the fact?(and to save face)
Spoke to Mark Rose (lib candidate) at the Ausday celebrations yesterday in Pier St, seems like a nice bloke. Before I met him I listened in on a few of his conversations and noted that ‘being a local’ was emphasised in his spiel.
Luba supporters take note apparently she doesn’t need any more votes it’s in the bag(the words of her no 1 supporter Truth be Known) and you dont need to bother heading to the local school to cast your vote
Did I tell you that when I mentioned Luba he became very edgy. It would seem that Jill would be his favoured candidate as well.
Mmmmm. Makes one see some of the comments on this forum in a different light..
Anon. Yes I support her, but more importantly I support the truth and local democracy.
Anon 1650…can you not read! Ahhhh so many anonymous people, with so little consequence. Please question the motives of those peddling this myth.
I can see a tragic ending to all of this.
Luba, you can commiserate tonight at my place – make sure you wear a sexy number.
Jill you will not get the support from the local branch members so good luck doing how to vote cards on your own you dum blond bimbo
Kirstie Marshall lives in Richmond I hear she still gets lost on her way to Forest Hill that is when she can be bothered going into the electorate office which isnt often apparently.
Kirstie Marshall spends her days with her kids and sipping lates with her girlfriends.
Marty,
You stooge,
The Local Government Act requires councillors to reside in the municipality in which they stand as a candidate or are an elected representative. Different to the Commonwealth and State Electoral Acts where MP’S can live anywhere.
My inside information has proven correct, over 20 local votes went to Jill Hennessy and Luba was smashed on the POSC.
Good Bye and god riddance Luba,
Try and resurrect your council career. Oh thats right, you no longer have one.
The truth is getting closer, Luba only drops her dirty underwear off to her mother’s place and actually resides in kew with her “boyfriend”
Await further developments!!!!!
Good bye Luba, it was nice working with you, l hope you find another seat, another council and another community to hood wink.
A word of advice, ride out of town as fast as you can, if you live in Kew, maybe Boroondara council might take you??
Can we all focus this negative energy on Mark Rose?
What a joke of candidate!
The bloke is seeking election to state parliament and he can’t even be bothered to do his job as a councillor.
Both Jill and Lube are in a different league to this local embarrassment.
Dante, sounds like Mark Rose may be a threat to the labor party & you sound like sour grapes. As a Wyndham resident he has represented me very well, he just doesn’t gloat about his achievements. He serves the community very well. He will be getting my vote!
Another glorious victory for the Victoria NUW faction. Right on, Charlie!