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	<title>Comments on: FIRST BLOOD: Victorian Liberals hopeful of giving Brumby a blood nose with big swing in Altona</title>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did GL have such a short career in real estate post state politics? Ask Frank H and you will hear a lot about GL&#039;s work ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did GL have such a short career in real estate post state politics? Ask Frank H and you will hear a lot about GL&#8217;s work ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: How to win friends and influence people</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to win friends and influence people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradford is such an expert at making enemies. He had Geoff Ablett the former Mayor under his wing for about five minutes. But it didn&#039;t take Ablett long to work out Bradford for the total scumbag that he is. Ablett was so disgusted by Bradford&#039;s behaviour and what he represents that he abandoned the Labor Party altogether and is about to become the Liberal endorsed candidate for the seat of Cranbourne. Well done scum bag, keep it going, and keep getting support from Luke Donnellan. You&#039;re the best thing that ever happened to the Liberals in Casey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradford is such an expert at making enemies. He had Geoff Ablett the former Mayor under his wing for about five minutes. But it didn&#8217;t take Ablett long to work out Bradford for the total scumbag that he is. Ablett was so disgusted by Bradford&#8217;s behaviour and what he represents that he abandoned the Labor Party altogether and is about to become the Liberal endorsed candidate for the seat of Cranbourne. Well done scum bag, keep it going, and keep getting support from Luke Donnellan. You&#8217;re the best thing that ever happened to the Liberals in Casey.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Crap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey Crap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labor had a chance to have a Mayor in Casey. But the shocking bully boy Kevin Bradford said he would vote for Wreford (although he hates her) and not the two labor frontrunners because the two labor councillors refused to have the ratepayers refund him $8000 in legal fees for the bullying case against him which caused a Community Services Director to resign in depression, and was investigated by WorkCover. This is how Labor operates in Casey, it is all about personal vandettas and what Kevin Bradford can get. Even the local journalists knew about this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labor had a chance to have a Mayor in Casey. But the shocking bully boy Kevin Bradford said he would vote for Wreford (although he hates her) and not the two labor frontrunners because the two labor councillors refused to have the ratepayers refund him $8000 in legal fees for the bullying case against him which caused a Community Services Director to resign in depression, and was investigated by WorkCover. This is how Labor operates in Casey, it is all about personal vandettas and what Kevin Bradford can get. Even the local journalists knew about this one!</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all why GL is hanging around Wreford, think back to his colourful exit from the Malvern Branch years ago!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all why GL is hanging around Wreford, think back to his colourful exit from the Malvern Branch years ago!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fact Not Spin...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fact Not Spin...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Scarlet Pimpernels &#124; February 9, 2010, 7:53 fails to mention the following:

@The ALP strongly opposed the vote for Lorraine Wreford as Mayor of Casey.

@Brookland Greens case will cost Labor at least the seat of Cranbourne which will elect Geoff Ablett and dump the ghost of Cranbourne, the incompetent Jude Perera. Judith Grayley could also take a tumble after a disappointing first term as MLA for NWS and the Brooklands Green issue.

@Lorraine Wreford is tipped to win the seat of Mordialloc if she is pre-selected by the Liberals. She was born in Sandringham and grew up in Baumaris. Labor does not want Wreford pre-selected for Mordialloc.

@The source of the internal Liberal information pasted on this blog- is it the office of the local Federal MP, who is a mate of one of Wreford&#039;s rivals for pre-selection . Back to work , boys.

Wreford has a strong chance of becoming an  MP .  Is she egotistical?  Probably...

Regardless of who the candidates are, Labor MPs will be under considerable pressure following the Altona By Election result.

This may precipitate a few more ALP early retirements ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Scarlet Pimpernels | February 9, 2010, 7:53 fails to mention the following:</p>
<p>@The ALP strongly opposed the vote for Lorraine Wreford as Mayor of Casey.</p>
<p>@Brookland Greens case will cost Labor at least the seat of Cranbourne which will elect Geoff Ablett and dump the ghost of Cranbourne, the incompetent Jude Perera. Judith Grayley could also take a tumble after a disappointing first term as MLA for NWS and the Brooklands Green issue.</p>
<p>@Lorraine Wreford is tipped to win the seat of Mordialloc if she is pre-selected by the Liberals. She was born in Sandringham and grew up in Baumaris. Labor does not want Wreford pre-selected for Mordialloc.</p>
<p>@The source of the internal Liberal information pasted on this blog- is it the office of the local Federal MP, who is a mate of one of Wreford&#8217;s rivals for pre-selection . Back to work , boys.</p>
<p>Wreford has a strong chance of becoming an  MP .  Is she egotistical?  Probably&#8230;</p>
<p>Regardless of who the candidates are, Labor MPs will be under considerable pressure following the Altona By Election result.</p>
<p>This may precipitate a few more ALP early retirements &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. Looks like the swing against the ALP in Kororoit was the average swing in a by-election - 4%. I suspect there will be a bigger swing against the ALP in Altona than there was in Kororoit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting. Looks like the swing against the ALP in Kororoit was the average swing in a by-election &#8211; 4%. I suspect there will be a bigger swing against the ALP in Altona than there was in Kororoit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2pp swing against the ALP in Kororoit was 4% not 17%. The ALP 2pp dropped from 75.5% to 71.5%. Get your facts straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2pp swing against the ALP in Kororoit was 4% not 17%. The ALP 2pp dropped from 75.5% to 71.5%. Get your facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent give more hope than libs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independent give more hope than libs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is Les knocked off 17% off modern labor machine with a small campaign with less spent on ti that the average ALP shonky Brimbank council election....

Doubt is the silvertale hypocrits at Liberal HQ can swing as much as Les backed by the ETU.

Labor will be hit by only a 10% swing and Nick Reece, Dan O&#039;Brien and John Brumby and the rest of state ALP parasites can go back into their normal comma...as &#039;a ten percent swing is to be expected&#039; .....wake me up when something interesting happens.

Lazy Ted is no worry..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is Les knocked off 17% off modern labor machine with a small campaign with less spent on ti that the average ALP shonky Brimbank council election&#8230;.</p>
<p>Doubt is the silvertale hypocrits at Liberal HQ can swing as much as Les backed by the ETU.</p>
<p>Labor will be hit by only a 10% swing and Nick Reece, Dan O&#8217;Brien and John Brumby and the rest of state ALP parasites can go back into their normal comma&#8230;as &#8216;a ten percent swing is to be expected&#8217; &#8230;..wake me up when something interesting happens.</p>
<p>Lazy Ted is no worry&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry

We do not live in Neverland!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry</p>
<p>We do not live in Neverland!</p>
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		<title>By: Dante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

The Point Cook Residents Association is a great idea. But, Have you done anything since 2006. Nothing on the website has been updated.

The absence of the PCRA for the past four years is pretty telling. It shows about as much commitment as Mark Rose.

Lori,

&quot;...every one has the same chace&quot;

Common who do not live in Neverland!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>The Point Cook Residents Association is a great idea. But, Have you done anything since 2006. Nothing on the website has been updated.</p>
<p>The absence of the PCRA for the past four years is pretty telling. It shows about as much commitment as Mark Rose.</p>
<p>Lori,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;every one has the same chace&#8221;</p>
<p>Common who do not live in Neverland!</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Menzies House
If you have a friend at Liberal headquartes who is given out proporganda like this they have no right being in  the Liberal party headquarters and I am sure they will now be susted out and possibly dismissed you seem to forget that your email address comes up on websites so you can be tracked. I do not know what are the facts or fiction here but I am quite upset that any party with a traitor in their mist needs to be made accountable. Every person has the right to give their preferences to whom so ever they feel comfortable with.Who has done the deals with the other independents they too need to give their preferences to another candidate didn&#039;t you realise this dumbo. Or doesn&#039;t it count if they have done a deal with Labor.You may just be surprised Liz could get elected on prefrence also. Everyone has the same chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Menzies House<br />
If you have a friend at Liberal headquartes who is given out proporganda like this they have no right being in  the Liberal party headquarters and I am sure they will now be susted out and possibly dismissed you seem to forget that your email address comes up on websites so you can be tracked. I do not know what are the facts or fiction here but I am quite upset that any party with a traitor in their mist needs to be made accountable. Every person has the right to give their preferences to whom so ever they feel comfortable with.Who has done the deals with the other independents they too need to give their preferences to another candidate didn&#8217;t you realise this dumbo. Or doesn&#8217;t it count if they have done a deal with Labor.You may just be surprised Liz could get elected on prefrence also. Everyone has the same chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Who is dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan. If you knew who I was you would have a heart attack. As I am concerned about your health I will always remain anonymous. But I will be about on Saturday and probably shake your hand !!
Please note this will be my last post until the next election and let us hope the Liberal party locally actually gets it&#039;s act together and stops supporting lazy, inarticulate, opportunists who would not know a Bourke street tram was up their arse until the conductor rang the bell.
Farewell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan. If you knew who I was you would have a heart attack. As I am concerned about your health I will always remain anonymous. But I will be about on Saturday and probably shake your hand !!<br />
Please note this will be my last post until the next election and let us hope the Liberal party locally actually gets it&#8217;s act together and stops supporting lazy, inarticulate, opportunists who would not know a Bourke street tram was up their arse until the conductor rang the bell.<br />
Farewell.</p>
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		<title>By: Menzies House</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menzies House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz Mumby met the the Libs prior to the close of nominations for Altona and did the deal. I know as l have a friend at Liberal HQ - Mumby is a Liberal stooge!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz Mumby met the the Libs prior to the close of nominations for Altona and did the deal. I know as l have a friend at Liberal HQ &#8211; Mumby is a Liberal stooge!!</p>
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		<title>By: Altona ALP Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Altona ALP Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Libs come on this blog and bicker about which councillor in Wyndham did this and that, and how Altona should be marginal. After Saturday when Labor retains the seat, they will all skulk back under their rocks. ALTONA IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE LABOR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Libs come on this blog and bicker about which councillor in Wyndham did this and that, and how Altona should be marginal. After Saturday when Labor retains the seat, they will all skulk back under their rocks. ALTONA IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE LABOR</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Mumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@who is dreaming, 
Liz&#039;s preferencing is up on the web for all the world to see at http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/how-to-vote.html

Liz&#039;s motivation for running is simple: you&#039;ll find that here http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/about-liz.html and here http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/component/content/article/25-the-project/87-your-vote-counts.html
No hidden agenda, no political party membership, no BS, just the words of a women passionate enough about her community to stand up and do something about the local problems. 

As for the people of Wyndham having to wait, that is the very point. Why should they? The state government  (who ever they are)rakes in more than $100 millions annually from the construction of almost 4000 Wyndham homes new homes, via developer contributions, taxes, fes &amp; charges, stamp duty, and ultimately the GST on the construction costs.

We are simply asking for a fair shake in the allocation of revenues in actually setting up the necessary services to benefit those living in new areas.

Is that such an unfair question?

You make some very strong claims behind a veil of anonymity.

I re-iterate. You know who i am. Who are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@who is dreaming,<br />
Liz&#8217;s preferencing is up on the web for all the world to see at <a href="http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/how-to-vote.html" rel="nofollow">http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/how-to-vote.html</a></p>
<p>Liz&#8217;s motivation for running is simple: you&#8217;ll find that here <a href="http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/about-liz.html" rel="nofollow">http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/about-liz.html</a> and here <a href="http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/component/content/article/25-the-project/87-your-vote-counts.html" rel="nofollow">http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/component/content/article/25-the-project/87-your-vote-counts.html</a><br />
No hidden agenda, no political party membership, no BS, just the words of a women passionate enough about her community to stand up and do something about the local problems. </p>
<p>As for the people of Wyndham having to wait, that is the very point. Why should they? The state government  (who ever they are)rakes in more than $100 millions annually from the construction of almost 4000 Wyndham homes new homes, via developer contributions, taxes, fes &amp; charges, stamp duty, and ultimately the GST on the construction costs.</p>
<p>We are simply asking for a fair shake in the allocation of revenues in actually setting up the necessary services to benefit those living in new areas.</p>
<p>Is that such an unfair question?</p>
<p>You make some very strong claims behind a veil of anonymity.</p>
<p>I re-iterate. You know who i am. Who are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Misrepresented</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misrepresented</dc:creator>
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		<description>I was unaware of this website prior to 1600 Hrs on 9 February 2010.  I have been misrepresented by the &quot;campaign manager&quot; for Liz Mumby, Daniel Mumby and am about to commence legal action.  This is my first, and will be my only posting on this site.  Some people will go to any length!  My initials, and the founder of a once-great organisation.  LB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unaware of this website prior to 1600 Hrs on 9 February 2010.  I have been misrepresented by the &#8220;campaign manager&#8221; for Liz Mumby, Daniel Mumby and am about to commence legal action.  This is my first, and will be my only posting on this site.  Some people will go to any length!  My initials, and the founder of a once-great organisation.  LB</p>
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		<title>By: Who is dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, Is it true from my sources in the liberal party you are preferencing Mark with number 3 so it does not look like you are actually preferencing him directly? Good ploy , used before, and using a candidate that will drop out early thereby giving Rose the vote will work. Intersting to see how many people are awake to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, Is it true from my sources in the liberal party you are preferencing Mark with number 3 so it does not look like you are actually preferencing him directly? Good ploy , used before, and using a candidate that will drop out early thereby giving Rose the vote will work. Intersting to see how many people are awake to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Who is dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Dan, Lemons on council and you support the biggest lemon in Mark Rose. And you are right about the votes it helped elect the second biggest lemon in Goodfellow. Not surprised the Libs did not allow him to run. If you want your fair share then you will have to wait because the people in Wyndham Vale waited 40 years to get a shopping centre, 25 years to get a doctors surgery, still no railway station, still no library etc etc. 
The People of Wyndham Vale say wait your turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Dan, Lemons on council and you support the biggest lemon in Mark Rose. And you are right about the votes it helped elect the second biggest lemon in Goodfellow. Not surprised the Libs did not allow him to run. If you want your fair share then you will have to wait because the people in Wyndham Vale waited 40 years to get a shopping centre, 25 years to get a doctors surgery, still no railway station, still no library etc etc.<br />
The People of Wyndham Vale say wait your turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Mumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments, all. we&#039;ve only been here since 13th feb 2001 (wow, nine years this Saturday). As i remember, palmers rd (south) was only funded for 1/2 width after substantial lobbying from the local community, (including yourself, LB). However, if you&#039;ll look at Point Cook Road, the minor improvements have been payed for by developers.

Train station - promised to be delivered in 2008, but now not due for completion until the END of 2013
Dunnings rd,- yes but only at Palmers Rd &amp; Pt Cook rd intersections, and extra money will have to be spent on restitution when they are properly widened.
Central Ave - nothing.
The list goes on.
For soho/sme business - nothing.
Broadband - nothing
Support for existing home owners not having multi unit block built next to them on what were splanned as sngle residence dwellings - nothing
Stopping the curse of poker machines- nothing
the library opens after the population hits 10k.
Sporting ground 2 + 2 just opening that have no permanent change facilities.
The soccer ground stage one in 4 yeras, plus 2 more for final completion, which hasw been talked about for 7 years now.
$186 million behind (as at last may) in community infrastructure spending by Wyndham.
an auditor generals report in december which shows that the local council hasn&#039;t collected all the developer contributions, and shows significant and substantial difficulties in its accounting system to follow through on these.
And to top it off, not a single word by the labour government as to  a) how it might step in and force some accountability and/or 
b) offer assistance with getting this community infrastructure program back on track.

Now let me ask the question, who is best placed to advocate for things that impact on the everday lives of residents (such as your kid not being able to play netball or football locally), some-one who&#039;s never before crossed over the bridge to this side of town before, or some-one who is directly impacted by the decisions of state &amp; local governments.

Do you reckon we stand back and hope that it will all be here soon?
Like it here? I love it. 
Do I expect more than our share? no. Just the same as what is considered normal on the other side of the bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments, all. we&#8217;ve only been here since 13th feb 2001 (wow, nine years this Saturday). As i remember, palmers rd (south) was only funded for 1/2 width after substantial lobbying from the local community, (including yourself, LB). However, if you&#8217;ll look at Point Cook Road, the minor improvements have been payed for by developers.</p>
<p>Train station &#8211; promised to be delivered in 2008, but now not due for completion until the END of 2013<br />
Dunnings rd,- yes but only at Palmers Rd &amp; Pt Cook rd intersections, and extra money will have to be spent on restitution when they are properly widened.<br />
Central Ave &#8211; nothing.<br />
The list goes on.<br />
For soho/sme business &#8211; nothing.<br />
Broadband &#8211; nothing<br />
Support for existing home owners not having multi unit block built next to them on what were splanned as sngle residence dwellings &#8211; nothing<br />
Stopping the curse of poker machines- nothing<br />
the library opens after the population hits 10k.<br />
Sporting ground 2 + 2 just opening that have no permanent change facilities.<br />
The soccer ground stage one in 4 yeras, plus 2 more for final completion, which hasw been talked about for 7 years now.<br />
$186 million behind (as at last may) in community infrastructure spending by Wyndham.<br />
an auditor generals report in december which shows that the local council hasn&#8217;t collected all the developer contributions, and shows significant and substantial difficulties in its accounting system to follow through on these.<br />
And to top it off, not a single word by the labour government as to  a) how it might step in and force some accountability and/or<br />
b) offer assistance with getting this community infrastructure program back on track.</p>
<p>Now let me ask the question, who is best placed to advocate for things that impact on the everday lives of residents (such as your kid not being able to play netball or football locally), some-one who&#8217;s never before crossed over the bridge to this side of town before, or some-one who is directly impacted by the decisions of state &amp; local governments.</p>
<p>Do you reckon we stand back and hope that it will all be here soon?<br />
Like it here? I love it.<br />
Do I expect more than our share? no. Just the same as what is considered normal on the other side of the bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike all the political party candidates, Liz Mumby is a local and doesn&#039;t have the backing of a party machine behind her.  As a candidate in the last council election she made the best preference deal possible to help her win.  She obviously was offered the best deal by a Liberal member so she took the deal, but she was not a stooge and stood to win.   Why would she preference another candidate if they didn&#039;t want to give her preferences back?

Liz obtained a higher first preference vote than one of the Liberal councillors (Glenn Goodfellow):-

ISAH, Mohammed 	1721
McALINEY, Kim     	5929
GOETZ, Nathan	        1170
GOODFELLOW, Glenn	1803
FAIRCLOUGH, Bob	4513
MUMBY, Liz	                2016
SINGH, Arbinder	        310
BARRETT, Leigh J.	        2116

(from ww.vec.vic.gov.au/wyndhamresult2008.html)

This shows she was a strong candidate and was playing to win.  A quota is just under 5000 votes, so Glenn Goodfellow received over 3000 preferences to get him across the line.  You can hardly say she had the Liberal elected!

VOTE LOCAL, VOTE LIZ!!!!!

http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike all the political party candidates, Liz Mumby is a local and doesn&#8217;t have the backing of a party machine behind her.  As a candidate in the last council election she made the best preference deal possible to help her win.  She obviously was offered the best deal by a Liberal member so she took the deal, but she was not a stooge and stood to win.   Why would she preference another candidate if they didn&#8217;t want to give her preferences back?</p>
<p>Liz obtained a higher first preference vote than one of the Liberal councillors (Glenn Goodfellow):-</p>
<p>ISAH, Mohammed 	1721<br />
McALINEY, Kim     	5929<br />
GOETZ, Nathan	        1170<br />
GOODFELLOW, Glenn	1803<br />
FAIRCLOUGH, Bob	4513<br />
MUMBY, Liz	                2016<br />
SINGH, Arbinder	        310<br />
BARRETT, Leigh J.	        2116</p>
<p>(from ww.vec.vic.gov.au/wyndhamresult2008.html)</p>
<p>This shows she was a strong candidate and was playing to win.  A quota is just under 5000 votes, so Glenn Goodfellow received over 3000 preferences to get him across the line.  You can hardly say she had the Liberal elected!</p>
<p>VOTE LOCAL, VOTE LIZ!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://lizmumby.ozecommunity.com.au/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Who is dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan. I have lived in the Point Cook area longer then you. In fact it was Kennett&#039;s Urban Land Authority that started the development in the area. The Liberal Government of the day allocated no money to capital or social infrastructure. The free market economy or local government were left to fund all of this. The Bracks/Brumby Labor governments had to pick up the shortfall. You may not like where you live and like Oliver Twist you want more and the people in the whole of Altona deserve more. But they will not get it from the Liberals. Look at your new schools, Palmers rd bridge, the roads development happening. The bus services current and new ones coming shortly to link Point Cook to Altona etc. Give your preferences to the only political party who are doing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan. I have lived in the Point Cook area longer then you. In fact it was Kennett&#8217;s Urban Land Authority that started the development in the area. The Liberal Government of the day allocated no money to capital or social infrastructure. The free market economy or local government were left to fund all of this. The Bracks/Brumby Labor governments had to pick up the shortfall. You may not like where you live and like Oliver Twist you want more and the people in the whole of Altona deserve more. But they will not get it from the Liberals. Look at your new schools, Palmers rd bridge, the roads development happening. The bus services current and new ones coming shortly to link Point Cook to Altona etc. Give your preferences to the only political party who are doing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Long memory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long memory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dan. Did Liz not preference the Libs at the last election (her preference card shows she did) and did not those preferences ensure that Point Cook has no representation on the Wyndham City Council. The three councillors all live in Hoppers Crossing do they not. Let us check the preferences on Saturday to see where allegiances lay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dan. Did Liz not preference the Libs at the last election (her preference card shows she did) and did not those preferences ensure that Point Cook has no representation on the Wyndham City Council. The three councillors all live in Hoppers Crossing do they not. Let us check the preferences on Saturday to see where allegiances lay.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Mumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And sorry for the double post</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Mumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Mumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Who is dreaming.
You raised the topic, some might say you&#039;ve &#039;verballed&#039; me) so I&#039;ll give you the facts. No we are not dyed in the wool Liberals. Like most people in Point Cook, we are from somewhere else; Liz from southern Sydney and me from the working class Melb outer eastern suburbs.

We have no allegiance to any party, nor are we members of any party. Liz is as working class as i am. She started her career as a nurse (isn&#039;t that a silver spoon occupation?).

But seriously, having lived here since the place was all just paddocks, and working hard for change in the local community, not much is being done in an area that the government considers &#039;safe&#039;?

Definition of insanity - continuing doing what you have been doing, whilst expecting a different result.

So we have one objective - highlighting to our local community that every single one of their votes counts towards what goes on in their community.

And if you have actually spoken to me, post your real name by reply and we&#039;ll have an open discussion.
Dan Mumby.
Campaign co-ordinator for Liz Mumby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Who is dreaming.<br />
You raised the topic, some might say you&#8217;ve &#8216;verballed&#8217; me) so I&#8217;ll give you the facts. No we are not dyed in the wool Liberals. Like most people in Point Cook, we are from somewhere else; Liz from southern Sydney and me from the working class Melb outer eastern suburbs.</p>
<p>We have no allegiance to any party, nor are we members of any party. Liz is as working class as i am. She started her career as a nurse (isn&#8217;t that a silver spoon occupation?).</p>
<p>But seriously, having lived here since the place was all just paddocks, and working hard for change in the local community, not much is being done in an area that the government considers &#8217;safe&#8217;?</p>
<p>Definition of insanity &#8211; continuing doing what you have been doing, whilst expecting a different result.</p>
<p>So we have one objective &#8211; highlighting to our local community that every single one of their votes counts towards what goes on in their community.</p>
<p>And if you have actually spoken to me, post your real name by reply and we&#8217;ll have an open discussion.<br />
Dan Mumby.<br />
Campaign co-ordinator for Liz Mumby</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Mumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Who is dreaming.
You raised the topic, some might say you&#039;ve &#039;verballed&#039; me) so I&#039;ll give you the facts. No we are not dyed in the wool Liberals. Like most people in Point Cook, we are from somewhere else; Liz from southern Sydney and me from the working class Melb outer eastern suburbs.

We have no allegiance to any party, nor are we members of any party. Liz is as working class as i am. She started her career as a nurse (isn&#039;t that a silver spoon occupation?).

But honestly, having lived here since the place was all just paddocks, and working hard for the change, how much more was going to be done in area that the government considers &#039;safe&#039;?

Definition of insanity - continuing doing what you have been doing, whilst expecting a different result.

So we have one objective - highlighting to our local community that every single one of their votes counts towards what goes on in their community.

And if you have actually spoken to me, post your real name by reply and we&#039;ll have an open discussion.
Dan Mumby
Campaign co-ordinator for Liz Mumby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Who is dreaming.<br />
You raised the topic, some might say you&#8217;ve &#8216;verballed&#8217; me) so I&#8217;ll give you the facts. No we are not dyed in the wool Liberals. Like most people in Point Cook, we are from somewhere else; Liz from southern Sydney and me from the working class Melb outer eastern suburbs.</p>
<p>We have no allegiance to any party, nor are we members of any party. Liz is as working class as i am. She started her career as a nurse (isn&#8217;t that a silver spoon occupation?).</p>
<p>But honestly, having lived here since the place was all just paddocks, and working hard for the change, how much more was going to be done in area that the government considers &#8217;safe&#8217;?</p>
<p>Definition of insanity &#8211; continuing doing what you have been doing, whilst expecting a different result.</p>
<p>So we have one objective &#8211; highlighting to our local community that every single one of their votes counts towards what goes on in their community.</p>
<p>And if you have actually spoken to me, post your real name by reply and we&#8217;ll have an open discussion.<br />
Dan Mumby<br />
Campaign co-ordinator for Liz Mumby</p>
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		<title>By: Mistake waiting to happen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistake waiting to happen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scarlet Pimpernel: Well done for bringing the shortcomings of Ms Wreford to public light here.  Your claims could be exaggerated and spat by another potential candidate but regardless, it is still important the Party follow up and sort it out before giving Wreford the go ahead. If she is preselected her opponents will have a field day using all that!  If it is true then she certainly doesn&#039;t deserve the position. This is why if the locals have a quality, local candidate who they vote on that they want, then there should be no question about who gets preselected.  Both parties often send in &#039;outsiders&#039; and it is wrong!  The local MP should be a known local person who the majority of the locals want to represent them, not someone who has worked the preselection panel over. Local general Electorate majority rules in the actual election yet preselection local majority goes out the window and it becomes who owes who what favours in the panel preselection. Allowing this to happen just makes the preselection individual panel member so much stronger for the next time and weakens even more the grass roots members vote. If Wreford gets preselected and the unselected local candidates choose to give the local papers the nod to publish their grievances and expose Ms Wreford to the local electorate, then Liberal would without a doubt lose that seat. Communities are like family and will stick with their local candidates if you choose to tell them what is going on. If you choose to let them think you are happy for Ms Wreford to be the candidate then she will scrape through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarlet Pimpernel: Well done for bringing the shortcomings of Ms Wreford to public light here.  Your claims could be exaggerated and spat by another potential candidate but regardless, it is still important the Party follow up and sort it out before giving Wreford the go ahead. If she is preselected her opponents will have a field day using all that!  If it is true then she certainly doesn&#8217;t deserve the position. This is why if the locals have a quality, local candidate who they vote on that they want, then there should be no question about who gets preselected.  Both parties often send in &#8216;outsiders&#8217; and it is wrong!  The local MP should be a known local person who the majority of the locals want to represent them, not someone who has worked the preselection panel over. Local general Electorate majority rules in the actual election yet preselection local majority goes out the window and it becomes who owes who what favours in the panel preselection. Allowing this to happen just makes the preselection individual panel member so much stronger for the next time and weakens even more the grass roots members vote. If Wreford gets preselected and the unselected local candidates choose to give the local papers the nod to publish their grievances and expose Ms Wreford to the local electorate, then Liberal would without a doubt lose that seat. Communities are like family and will stick with their local candidates if you choose to tell them what is going on. If you choose to let them think you are happy for Ms Wreford to be the candidate then she will scrape through.</p>
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		<title>By: loyalty is a two way street</title>
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		<dc:creator>loyalty is a two way street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good if voters remind Brumby that loyalty is a two ways street. 

A 5% swing against ALP in a by election will still be shrugged off by the new born to rule mob in alp head office and spring street.

The bone heads will only wake up when they lose a safe seat.

But that is not likely despite the selective release of polling and the scare mongering by Nick Reece et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if voters remind Brumby that loyalty is a two ways street. </p>
<p>A 5% swing against ALP in a by election will still be shrugged off by the new born to rule mob in alp head office and spring street.</p>
<p>The bone heads will only wake up when they lose a safe seat.</p>
<p>But that is not likely despite the selective release of polling and the scare mongering by Nick Reece et al.</p>
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		<title>By: Madam Lash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madam Lash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libs will only manage a 4-5% swing...don&#039;t forget this is not the sand belt on the other side of town...and there is an excellent Labor candidate...</description>
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		<title>By: Who is dreaming?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is dreaming?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Lori. If you know Liz Mumby you know she and her family are dyed in the wool Libs, even her husband says so.
The libs ruled for 7 years and tried to put a toxic dump in the west not far from Altona, they cut back on train services and moved coppers to the eastern suburbs from the west to look after their own. So get a timetable from 1999 and check it with todays and you will see more express trains and more services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Lori. If you know Liz Mumby you know she and her family are dyed in the wool Libs, even her husband says so.<br />
The libs ruled for 7 years and tried to put a toxic dump in the west not far from Altona, they cut back on train services and moved coppers to the eastern suburbs from the west to look after their own. So get a timetable from 1999 and check it with todays and you will see more express trains and more services.</p>
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		<title>By: The Scarlet Pimpernels</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Scarlet Pimpernels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Libs will have a very good chance to give the ALP a grubbing on Saturday in Altona and win the State election in Victoria later this year.  

As long as they keep their nose clean and let Mr Brumby bury himself through things like his support of incompetent and bumbling Ministers like Madden and Cameron and the now ‘sadly’ departed Ms Kosky.  

Deputy Premier Hulls is certainly no Mr ‘pretty boy’ Thwaites.  He doesn’t smile at anything and has panache to appoint lefties to the judiciary, upsetting many in our community!  

Mr Brumby has never won an election in his own right and certainly is no Mr ‘nice guy’ Bracks.  So there is hope for a close race this year just on the likability scale!  

There is one sleeping problem in the South-Eastern suburbs that may come up and bite the Liberal Party on the bum though.  Lorraine Wreford the newly appointed Mayor of the City of Casey has put her hand up to be pre-selected for the State seat of Mordialloc, many miles out of her electorate (she lives in Berwick).  

There has already been agitation with the locals as to why Ms Wreford is deserting the City of Casey only 5 minutes after being appointed their Mayor and heading off to the City of Kingston (where Mordialloc is) in her desperate ambition to be pre-selected.  Even on Australia Day Mayor Wreford was at the City of Kingston breakfast instead of attending her Mayoral duties in the City of Casey!   

I understand from reliable sources Ms Wreford was also trying late last year for the Gembrook State pre-selection (within the City of Casey) but had no local Liberal support what-so-ever, so didn’t even enter the race.  

An ex-Liberal Member of Parliament with the initials of Geoff Leigh has now taken Ms Wreford under ‘his wing’ and is pushing her barrow in Mordialloc.  Apparently she is not the sharpest tool in the shed (a bit like Mr Leigh).  Ms Wreford is also very proud of her generous ‘body modifications’ driving some of the older gents in the Liberal Party to distraction.  I guess Geoff likes a bit of mature eye candy and his current ‘consultancy work’ which entails working with some of his Labor mates to help ram property developments through local governments has made his interest in Ms Wreford understandable.   

But the questions that the Liberal Party needs to bear in mind are:-

Q1  Why has Ms Wreford been given the Mayoralship of Casey in a Labor dominated council in a year where there is to be a Federal and State election?  Labor dominated councils are desperate to have Labor Mayors in election years, ensuring they can ‘control’ information and community invites to the local Liberal Members of Parliament and Liberal candidates.  Ms Wreford has tried previously to be the Mayor of Casey without success.  Why has the local Labor Party endorsed her appointment this year when there will be several tightly contested Federal and State seats in the area?     

A1  Perhaps the pending Supreme Court case regarding the highly publicised Cranbourne Brookland Greens housing estate gas leak where more than 560 residents have launched a class action lawsuit through Slater &amp; Gordon against the City of Casey could be the key?  This will be a highly publicised event in 2010 (as it was when this terrible thing happened with people having to leave their homes for fear of explosion in 2008).  If the City of Casey wins this case they will have fought against their own citizens, and won.  They (read Liberal Mayor Wreford) will be ridiculed in the press up hill and down dale.  On the other hand if the City of Casey loses the case they will have imposed a bill of millions upon millions of dollars on the ratepayers of Casey for many years.  Rates will go through the roof.  They (read Liberal Mayor Wreford) will be ridiculed in the press up hill and down dale.  We can see the headlines now.
There is only lose-lose in this issue with the Liberal brand burnt under the auspices of Liberal Mayor Wreford being in charge.  She will take all the political thumping on this sensitive community issue.  If this is so obvious to us why is it not obvious to Ms Wreford?  

Q2 Why has Ms Wreford never attended a La Trobe or Gembrook Electorate Conference meeting until the 2009 Gembrook AGM?  Why has she never won an executive position in her Berwick Branch when the election needs to go to an internal ballot?  

A2  Ms Wreford has no interest in helping the Liberal Party in any way other than having them get her a job in Parliament.   Local Berwick Liberals understand Ms Wreford very well and would not support her in any internal contested position.   In the 2009 election for State Council Delegates, through the Gembrook AGM, 4 positions were available with 5 members applying to be Delegates.  In the ballot Ms Wreford finished last behind two 80 year old ladies!   

Q3  In the 2008 local government elections why did Ms Wreford exchange preferences with Labor endorsed candidates?   The Liberal candidate Chris Andrews just missed out on the seat to the slippery ALP man Sam Azis due to this despicable act!  

A3  It is obvious that Ms Wreford has only one goal.  To get Ms Wreford whatever she wants and bugger the Liberal Party.  

Q4  Why did Ms Wreford in 2006 bag the Liberal candidate for Cranbourne – Luke Martin in the local press?  

A4  In 2006 Ms Wreford ran unsuccessfully for both the South East Metro Upper House  (against Inga Peulich and Gordon Rich Phillips) and the lower house seat of Cranbourne, stating to many that she needed some income because of her financial troubles.  The fact she did not get any local support for both these seats caused her to spit venom back at the Liberal people who were successful.  

Q5  Ms Wreford always talks about being a ‘single mother’ of 4 children.  This is true.  But she forgets to let people know that her children do not live with her but their father.

A5  This speaks volumes of Ms Wreford desperation to have image over substance.

Q6  Why is Ms Wreford trying for pre-selection in the State seat of Mordialloc, many miles from where she lives?

A6  Apart from Mr Leigh’s pre-occupation with Mr Leigh’s own interests (btw - never trust anyone who speaks out of the corner of their mouth) the chances of Delegates at the Mordialloc pre-selection (miles away from Berwick) not understanding Ms Wreford’s  Raison d&#039;être (that’s French for &quot;reason for being&quot; Geoff) is to her advantage.       

All in all the Liberal Party needs to be very careful about Ms Wreford’s ability to understand the ‘political tea leaves’ and certainly her real intentions and abilities to be a member of the Liberal Parliamentary party needs to be questioned.  The political explosive nature of her being set up to take the heat on the pending Supreme Court case  regarding the Cranbourne gas leak while running off to seek endorsement in a seat miles from her own backyard will surely tarnish the Liberal brand in what will be a very important year for the Party.  

Lets hope the Liberals don’t repeat another ‘Robert Dean’ type mistake this year.  The stakes are too high.  In fact Dr Dean pretended he lived up in Berwick when nominating for Gembrook in 2002 didn’t he?  I wonder where he was staying when in Berwick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Libs will have a very good chance to give the ALP a grubbing on Saturday in Altona and win the State election in Victoria later this year.  </p>
<p>As long as they keep their nose clean and let Mr Brumby bury himself through things like his support of incompetent and bumbling Ministers like Madden and Cameron and the now ‘sadly’ departed Ms Kosky.  </p>
<p>Deputy Premier Hulls is certainly no Mr ‘pretty boy’ Thwaites.  He doesn’t smile at anything and has panache to appoint lefties to the judiciary, upsetting many in our community!  </p>
<p>Mr Brumby has never won an election in his own right and certainly is no Mr ‘nice guy’ Bracks.  So there is hope for a close race this year just on the likability scale!  </p>
<p>There is one sleeping problem in the South-Eastern suburbs that may come up and bite the Liberal Party on the bum though.  Lorraine Wreford the newly appointed Mayor of the City of Casey has put her hand up to be pre-selected for the State seat of Mordialloc, many miles out of her electorate (she lives in Berwick).  </p>
<p>There has already been agitation with the locals as to why Ms Wreford is deserting the City of Casey only 5 minutes after being appointed their Mayor and heading off to the City of Kingston (where Mordialloc is) in her desperate ambition to be pre-selected.  Even on Australia Day Mayor Wreford was at the City of Kingston breakfast instead of attending her Mayoral duties in the City of Casey!   </p>
<p>I understand from reliable sources Ms Wreford was also trying late last year for the Gembrook State pre-selection (within the City of Casey) but had no local Liberal support what-so-ever, so didn’t even enter the race.  </p>
<p>An ex-Liberal Member of Parliament with the initials of Geoff Leigh has now taken Ms Wreford under ‘his wing’ and is pushing her barrow in Mordialloc.  Apparently she is not the sharpest tool in the shed (a bit like Mr Leigh).  Ms Wreford is also very proud of her generous ‘body modifications’ driving some of the older gents in the Liberal Party to distraction.  I guess Geoff likes a bit of mature eye candy and his current ‘consultancy work’ which entails working with some of his Labor mates to help ram property developments through local governments has made his interest in Ms Wreford understandable.   </p>
<p>But the questions that the Liberal Party needs to bear in mind are:-</p>
<p>Q1  Why has Ms Wreford been given the Mayoralship of Casey in a Labor dominated council in a year where there is to be a Federal and State election?  Labor dominated councils are desperate to have Labor Mayors in election years, ensuring they can ‘control’ information and community invites to the local Liberal Members of Parliament and Liberal candidates.  Ms Wreford has tried previously to be the Mayor of Casey without success.  Why has the local Labor Party endorsed her appointment this year when there will be several tightly contested Federal and State seats in the area?     </p>
<p>A1  Perhaps the pending Supreme Court case regarding the highly publicised Cranbourne Brookland Greens housing estate gas leak where more than 560 residents have launched a class action lawsuit through Slater &amp; Gordon against the City of Casey could be the key?  This will be a highly publicised event in 2010 (as it was when this terrible thing happened with people having to leave their homes for fear of explosion in 2008).  If the City of Casey wins this case they will have fought against their own citizens, and won.  They (read Liberal Mayor Wreford) will be ridiculed in the press up hill and down dale.  On the other hand if the City of Casey loses the case they will have imposed a bill of millions upon millions of dollars on the ratepayers of Casey for many years.  Rates will go through the roof.  They (read Liberal Mayor Wreford) will be ridiculed in the press up hill and down dale.  We can see the headlines now.<br />
There is only lose-lose in this issue with the Liberal brand burnt under the auspices of Liberal Mayor Wreford being in charge.  She will take all the political thumping on this sensitive community issue.  If this is so obvious to us why is it not obvious to Ms Wreford?  </p>
<p>Q2 Why has Ms Wreford never attended a La Trobe or Gembrook Electorate Conference meeting until the 2009 Gembrook AGM?  Why has she never won an executive position in her Berwick Branch when the election needs to go to an internal ballot?  </p>
<p>A2  Ms Wreford has no interest in helping the Liberal Party in any way other than having them get her a job in Parliament.   Local Berwick Liberals understand Ms Wreford very well and would not support her in any internal contested position.   In the 2009 election for State Council Delegates, through the Gembrook AGM, 4 positions were available with 5 members applying to be Delegates.  In the ballot Ms Wreford finished last behind two 80 year old ladies!   </p>
<p>Q3  In the 2008 local government elections why did Ms Wreford exchange preferences with Labor endorsed candidates?   The Liberal candidate Chris Andrews just missed out on the seat to the slippery ALP man Sam Azis due to this despicable act!  </p>
<p>A3  It is obvious that Ms Wreford has only one goal.  To get Ms Wreford whatever she wants and bugger the Liberal Party.  </p>
<p>Q4  Why did Ms Wreford in 2006 bag the Liberal candidate for Cranbourne – Luke Martin in the local press?  </p>
<p>A4  In 2006 Ms Wreford ran unsuccessfully for both the South East Metro Upper House  (against Inga Peulich and Gordon Rich Phillips) and the lower house seat of Cranbourne, stating to many that she needed some income because of her financial troubles.  The fact she did not get any local support for both these seats caused her to spit venom back at the Liberal people who were successful.  </p>
<p>Q5  Ms Wreford always talks about being a ‘single mother’ of 4 children.  This is true.  But she forgets to let people know that her children do not live with her but their father.</p>
<p>A5  This speaks volumes of Ms Wreford desperation to have image over substance.</p>
<p>Q6  Why is Ms Wreford trying for pre-selection in the State seat of Mordialloc, many miles from where she lives?</p>
<p>A6  Apart from Mr Leigh’s pre-occupation with Mr Leigh’s own interests (btw &#8211; never trust anyone who speaks out of the corner of their mouth) the chances of Delegates at the Mordialloc pre-selection (miles away from Berwick) not understanding Ms Wreford’s  Raison d&#8217;être (that’s French for &#8220;reason for being&#8221; Geoff) is to her advantage.       </p>
<p>All in all the Liberal Party needs to be very careful about Ms Wreford’s ability to understand the ‘political tea leaves’ and certainly her real intentions and abilities to be a member of the Liberal Parliamentary party needs to be questioned.  The political explosive nature of her being set up to take the heat on the pending Supreme Court case  regarding the Cranbourne gas leak while running off to seek endorsement in a seat miles from her own backyard will surely tarnish the Liberal brand in what will be a very important year for the Party.  </p>
<p>Lets hope the Liberals don’t repeat another ‘Robert Dean’ type mistake this year.  The stakes are too high.  In fact Dr Dean pretended he lived up in Berwick when nominating for Gembrook in 2002 didn’t he?  I wonder where he was staying when in Berwick?</p>
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