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THE HATE BOAT: Greensparty wanted to go “solidarity” sailing with Nazi holocaust denier

greenznazisThe notorious New South Wales branch of the Greensparty has once again embroiled the party in scandal, following revelations in The Australian that it has forged close ties with the nation’s most infamous Holocaust denier and Nazi, Fredrick Töben.

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They even invited him to sail in solidarity to raise funds for Gaza, in protest at Israel’s attempts to stop the flow of weapons and equipment used by terrorists there against Israeli civilians and enemies of the Hamas-led regime there. The non-sharia booze cruise for Gaza wasn’t cheap:

$75 regular | $100 solidarity (inclusive of food and fine company)

Emails between an unnamed Greensparty staffer who we can reveal is Mark Riboldi, an electorate officer to David Shoebridge MLC, show a close degree of interaction between the supposedly left-wing MP’s state electorate office and the notorious anti-Semite from Adelaide. A Google search, the general notoriety of Töben including a lot of press last year relating to an anti-discrimination case against him, mean their denial that they were aware of his views and activities strains credulity. As you’ll see, Töben wasn’t shy about writing about “Jewish pressure” in correspondence with the Greensparty. And of course, Töben could very well be a Greensparty voter given the well-established environmentalist tradition in Nazi ideology.

Young-Greens-Israel-poll-webThe revelations come after a Greensparty asked its supporters and members “Do you believe Israel has a right to exist?” an agenda item perhaps lifted from a Ku Klux Klan conference.

The Australian’s Christian Kerr, who has been understandably agitating for redeployment from Canberra to Melbourne, has done well to shine light on a very sinister email exchange showing the Greensparty and Nazis show common cause when it comes to hating the Jewish state, Israel. The Australian reveals:

Mr Shoebridge’s office emailed Dr Toben a link to his speech on March 25.

“Many, many thanks, Mark – and all the very best to David – and I do hope there will not be a bending to Jewish pressure after this courageous stance!” Dr Toben said in a return email the same day.

“Definitely not,” came a response from Mr Shoebridge’s office two days later.

Usually Israel haters are careful to refer to “Zionists” rather than directly referring to Jews. Mark Riboldi was not disturbed by the plain-speaking about the Jews. Quite reminiscent of that other anti-Semite, one-time Christian Kerr boss turned foe Stephen Mayne, who once told an ABC radio audience he’d submitted to what he claimed was omnipotent Jewish power by just following the editorial line of the Jewish News on Israel when he ran Crikey.

The publication’s carnival of Israel-hating writers at the time mustn’t have got Mayne’s memo. As ever with Mayne, now an unemployed carpetbagging local councillor in league with dodgy developers’ mate Darebin mayor Tim Laurence, it was a fib. Mayne told a lot of fibs back then, Crikey insiders say, especially those co-founders he reputedly defrauded in their partnership when it came to divvy up the spoils from the sale to Eric Beecher. Whatever one might say about Kerr – and we’ve said plenty – he is sound on Israel and troubled by anti-Semitism of the kind Stephen Mayne exhibits. Mayne was also recently accused of removing delicacies including cakes and meals from Melbourne Town Hall premises that are generously provided by ratepayers to keep the councillors well-fed. It is unclear whether that makes Mayne family members, whom we choose not to name at this time, complicit in his arguably unlawful behaviour.

The Greensparty-Nazi alliance exposed by Christian Kerr today is about as confronting and worrying as anything else we’ve ever seen from the Greens. Their pre-occupation with Israel, their insistence on the Jewish state being some kind of villain while remaining silent about the Middle East’s real human rights abusers like the Saudis and Syrians, can now be seen in its proper context.

A Google search of the Greensparty’s intended guest Fredrick Töben is a horror show. He is undoubtedly Australia’s most prominent and infamous Holocaust denier, saluted with the Third Reich salute by his fans during his multiple criminal trials. He has produced lengthy texts and videos making his case that among other things: 1) the Holocaust didn’t happen, 2) Nazi death camp prisoners were fed better than Germans in general and 3) those gas chambers were just designed to make sure no-one got nits during their stay. It’s vile, menacing and horrible stuff.

markriboldiAnd the staffer who invited him – Mark Riboldi – has a Linkedin page shows he claims to have been a “researcher,” a “communications assistant” to the NSW Greensparty, not before he started as an electorate officer working for David Shoebridge, in a self-titled role “Communications and Policy Advisor”. His duties extend to answering the phone, the tweets and inviting Nazis to anti-Israel events. The bloke can use Google. It’s frankly impossible to imagine he hadn’t heard of him, while taking such a keen interest in the Middle East.

And even when the Greensparty high command decided there was too much heat to allow Töben to attend in full-dress Nazi uniform, Shoebridge’s staffer didn’t say we don’t like your views, he apologised for the inconvenience and merely said his views would “likely offend a number of guests who we work with frequently.” Nothing about Shoebridge or the staffer or the Greensparty themselves being offended. Riboldi wrote:

“Hi Frederick, I’m afraid we’re going to have to rescind our invitation to this event. I have been informed that, based on your past actions and views, your presence will likely offend a number of guests who we work with frequently. Apologies for any inconvenience. Mark for David.”

It appears Toben got angry as a result of being uninvited, demanded his hosts pay him for his airfare to Sydney and appears to have provided details of his correspondence to maximise the trouble for the Greensparty as a payback. While all that’s amusing, it’s no laughing matter that the Greensparty and Australia’s most prominent Holocaust-denier have been so closely connected at all.

The Greensparty’s continued involvement in the Nazi-emulating Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions blitzkreig against the Jewish state, their extensive interaction with Holocaust deniers and Nazis is perplexing, confusing for those who like to peg them as self-indulgent idealistic lefties who love koalas and didn’t grow out of student politics.

Maybe some of them are like that. Maybe some of them mean well. The anti-Labor left tradition is a long-term, albeit fringe, part of Australian politics.

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But the fact the Greensparty attracts and is comfortable with support from Nazis ought worry all of us.

Not everyone sympathetic to the plight of the hopelessly divided and poorly led Palestinians is an anti-Semite or is even anti-Israel. But those who impose impossible standards on Israel (that they never seek to apply on other Mid-East countries), those who find themselves supporting the Gazans or the West Bankers or Hezbollah or even the Syrian rebels who snack on the hearts of their enemies are getting into bed with the political enemies of everything we politically value in Australia: human rights, individual liberty, religious freedom and democracy.

It should come as no surprise that those who oppose Israel attract Nazis and far-right groups like flies to rotten eggs. The long sweep of history shows they are part of the same tradition, frequently employing the same tactics (like boycotts), with thinking similarly twisted and troubled, motivated by deeply worrying sentiments we once dared to dream were extinguished when the Nazi death camps were liberated and Israel from the ashes of the Holocaust.

At Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Museum, there’s a memorial wall that reads in the languages of the world “Never again.” When you confront the fact that currently elected members of Australian parliaments – from the Greensparty no less – are in league with those who pretend the Holocaust didn’t happen because they are sympathetic to its perpetrators, we’re powerfully reminded that those words “Never again” have a great deal of meaning still. “Never again” isn’t a boast, it’s a reminder that there is evil in the world and we must always be ready to identify it and have the courage to act against it.

UPDATE: The Greensparty MLC responsible for this unpleasantness says it’s all a big misunderstanding and that he didn’t intend for the Holocaust denier to be invited to the anti-Israel booze cruise:

“Probably the most offensive view you can have in relation to the issue of Israel and Palestine is to be a Holocaust denier,” he told the ABC.

Yeh, probably.

UPDATE: David Shoebridge has refused to sign the London declaration condemning anti-Semitism.

UPDATE: David Shoebridge gives a reasonably good account of himself on Sydney radio, distancing himself from the actions of his rogue staffer.

UPDATE: The Australian reports in a follow-up yarn that a “split” has emerged in the Greensparty over how to handle their Greens-Nazi relationship. Some – like former Christine Milne staffer and violist – Tim Hollo impressed with his no-holds-barred attack on those responsible for building friendships with Nazis:

The invitation was sent to Dr Toben after an email exchange with Shoebridge staffer Mark Riboldi, who sent a link to a March 25 debate in the NSW Legislative Council on a study trip to Israel that was hijacked by pro-Palestinian MPs. In the exchange Mr Riboldi agreed he would “definitely not” be bending to Jewish pressure.

Mr Hollo condemned Mr Riboldi’s conduct: “As a proud Jewish Green, I have spent years convincing people it is wrong and offensive to conflate criticising Israel’s government and armed forces with anti-Semitism. In this context, David Shoebridge’s staffer’s approach to Fredrick Toben is an inexcusable error that is completely out of step with Greens policies, values and action.

“He should not be allowed to tarnish the great work done by the rest of the party.”

You can’t fault Hollo’s tough-on-slime approach. Other Greenistas were less certain of just how critical they could be of those seeking the black-leathery embrace of Nazi chums.

For example, Comrade Hollo’s old boss-cocky Christine Milne thought it was best to just condemn anti-Semitism rather than those cuddling up to it:

“The Australian Greens totally reject and condemn anti-Semitism . . . It is abhorrent. We condemn unreservedly Holocaust denials. It has no place anywhere in Australia society,” Senator Milne said. “The horrendous consequences of the Holocaust are still being felt around the world and I am appalled that people like Dr Toben engage in fabrication of history and . . . spread and engage in anti-Semitism.”

But she stopped short of condemning Mr Shoebridge.

UPDATE: This issue has done as much to damage the reputation of the Greensparty as anything else they’ve ever done.

It comes as no surprise – to them or anyone else – that if they attack, campaign against and besmirch the Jewish state of Israel they will inevitably attract the attention and support of anti-Semites, in Holocaust-denier and/or Nazi form. It doesn’t help that Nazism itself had a conservationist/environmental element to it.

This should give them pause. The Greensparty is not a party of race-hate. But their willingness to engage with those who are, to even invite them on booze cruises, is a worry about how they are evolving.

It boils down to this: they are wrong about Israel. Israel’s Tel Aviv sandal-wearers and beach-bums have far more in common with Greens than they could imagine unless they’ve been there. Israel’s vibrant, puzzling and fluid democracy is far more consistent with the proportional representation voting system and polity favoured by inner-city leftists who’d love a Stephen Jolly Socialist list to get a couple of MPs, next to the Greensparty, a couple of Assange-ites and other space cadets. Our system is far better, of course.

Israel was – once – a lefty darling. But it kind of fell out favour when it proved its capacity to defend itself against the invading armies of Arab dictatorships (some Soviet-linked, many ultra-conservative), and maintained close ties with the United States. By defending its borders and people successfully and – after many decades of terrible struggle – building a successful export-oriented, innovative economy, Israel lost its under-dog status and there’s nothing a lefty loves more than an underdog. Now it’s the Palestinians who look like they’ve got the rough end of the stick. Any sensible analysis of recent events shows that it’s entirely self-imposed, usually by their inept, thieving and extremist leadership. Terror attacks on Israeli civilians caused Israeli security to tighten up. Somehow this was conflated into Israel being an “apartheid” state despite a rich cultural and ethnic diversity in Israel, which no-one could reasonably deny. It is a remarkably cosmopolitan, diverse and inclusive society with a great passion for liberties and freedoms, certainly as much as our society is, if not more.

The Greensparty’s indulgence in supporting a “boycott” of the Jewish state is an outrage.

They are – indeed – as the Australian’s powerful editorial persuasively argued this morning “a ship of fools.” They put it best:

By flirting with BDS, the Greens forfeit the right to be considered a mainstream party. It demonstrates a preference for the company of the numbats and conspiracists in the dark and dangerous fringelands. Until the party disentangles itself, forcefully and unambiguously, from the BDS movement and those who would see a democratic, sovereign nation wiped from the map, its chances of being taken seriously are zero.

Discussion

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  1. I think Lee Brown learnt a lesson here from her parents – Uncle Joe was a warm ally of Hitler for many years

    Posted by the Insider | June 20, 2013, 8:54
  2. Has Shoebridge ever confirmed his own views on the holocaust?

    Posted by Brett | June 20, 2013, 10:30
  3. Maybe I should become a Green, cos they don like dem Joos.

    Posted by Captain Wacko Jacko | June 20, 2013, 12:11
  4. Nothing wrong with a bit of black leather Nazi style

    Posted by Bob Brown | June 20, 2013, 13:19
  5. When will the Liberals purge the gross and appalling Kelly O’Dwyer? And she thinks she will be Leader after Abbott.Yeah right.

    Posted by Roberto | June 20, 2013, 13:34
  6. Comparing the barbarous savagery, the lizard-like coldheartedness of AshkeNAZI Ziosauroans to Germany’s National Socialist is like comparing a Komodo dragon on steroids to a meditating Quaker on Zoloft regimen.

    There is documented proof that 587 men and 7 women have been executed in gas chambers in the U.S.A.

    That’s 594 more persons than were ever executed in the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz If you’d like, I could produce the names of every one.

    No person or organization in the U.S.A. — or anywhere else, with forensically verifiable, documented proof, – has ever produced, the name of even one person killed in a gas chamber at Auschwitz.

    Posted by SHAFAR NULLIFIDIAN | June 20, 2013, 14:05
  7. WTF? seriously, this is what you do with your time? First person to reference the NAZI’s loses and that is you.

    Posted by tony A | June 20, 2013, 14:05
  8. “hearts of their enemies are getting into bed with the political enemies of everything we politically value in Australia: human rights, individual liberty, religious freedom and democracy.”

    So I guess you won’t be supporting Israel then or the U.S. after their brilliant performances restricting liberties and you also won’t be supporting either major party as they continue to restrict those who come to ours shores in dire need. Oh wait rational thought does not count here; only bile, hysteria and paranoia.

    Posted by tony A | June 20, 2013, 14:10
  9. The Greens really are on another planet to the rest of us. On another note, Greens MPs really DO talk (and more!) with aliens – REALLY!! This Greens member proves it…

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/offbeat/17678499/man-fathered-child-with-alien/

    Posted by Steve Larsson | June 20, 2013, 15:27
  10. Shafar. The difficulty, of course, is that the Nazis burned the bodies of the people they murdered. And there is mountains of evidence that it occurred – the Nazis actually admitted it…if you’d like to check the Nuremberg Trial files – or, Oh wait, they were all faked by Jewish interests. Don’t you have a comic to be reading?

    Posted by John | June 20, 2013, 15:29
  11. Ahhh the Greens! Sooner they disappear into the void the better

    Posted by Daniel | June 20, 2013, 15:41
  12. We need a fourth reich led by Lee Rhiannon

    Posted by Zionist cur | June 20, 2013, 15:51
  13. Good job, Vexnews.

    It is appalling that people seriously believe the Greens are a viable alternative to the two major parties.

    Posted by Dan Lewis | June 20, 2013, 16:46
  14. The Greens survey was placed onto the AJN website which may be the reason for the result 57% and 92% respectively. I will have to check out the AJN online to see what the current % are.

    Holocaust mentioned again but there have been so many. Millions under Stalin in the 1930, the 14 million killed in Nazi camps (incl 8 million gentiles), 3 million on Cambodia (Pol Pot), 1 million plus in a month in Rwanda 2 decades ago and so on.

    But the biggest democratic political holocaust comrades will be on 14 Sep 13 when the ALP Caucus in Canberra will be exterminated by the masses.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 20, 2013, 19:55
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  16. Maybe I should join the Holocaust denying Greens.

    Posted by Captain Wacko Jacko | June 21, 2013, 9:07
  17. Good job, Vexnews.

    It is appalling that people seriously believe the ALP or Liberal Party are a viable alternative to the Greens

    Posted by Dan Lewis | June 21, 2013, 11:36
  18. It is appalling that people seriously believe that the ALP, Libs or Greens are worthy of a vote.

    Posted by Bob | June 21, 2013, 12:29
  19. Nothing really to see here. Staffer stuffed up, Greens have distanced themselves. But up on the hill, another staffer is highly amusing and he is giving a mate airtime who likes to yell C*nt down the internet at women if they put up online articles that disagree with his position.

    This in a week where much has been made of the possibility of women pulling back from politics when they see the sheer nastiness they might be exposed too. Yet a Green’s staffer won’t take the simple step of unfollowing someone who I’m sure in a lot of people’s eyes has crossed the line.

    Anyway, thanks to the internet, a temporary lapse in judgement can hang around… and hang around, and hang around…

    Posted by Beatup.. | June 21, 2013, 13:33
  20. Oh, and the warning about stuff hanging around on the internet for years isn’t some sort of threat – it’s the brutal truth and a wise Greens employee would take it to heart. The highly amusing guy who loves the word c@nt and his mates might think it’s hysterical. But a lot of people won’t think so. Makes rather unpleasant reading – more than a little childish actually to me.

    So what is a Green’s staffer doing following it? Especially a Green’s staffer whose twitter feed has already been featured in the media. It was about the road kill count I believe. You wouldn’t think they would need this potentially problamatic association (PPA!). Still you can only give so much free advice….

    Posted by Beatup.. | June 21, 2013, 14:38
  21. Nullifidian. A noun meaning- a person having no faith or religious belief.

    Is that you Mr Toben?

    Posted by H the B | June 21, 2013, 16:48
  22. Poor effort from V/N over the past 2 months…

    Seems Andrew has given up on winning the next fed or state election and is just slagging off at the greens to fight over the scraps that will be left over after Captain Speedo and the Vet from the West win their respective elections…

    Vex needs to get their collective eye back on the main game and hold the main (not peripheral) players to account … otherwise y bother?

    Posted by justdiss | June 21, 2013, 19:00
  23. toben “infamous”? not at all: quite the contrary. he is a HERO, one of the few guys worthwile to be remembered, in this australian society dirty and rotten to the core (and your post is a horrific example of thought police!).

    Posted by andrea carancini | June 23, 2013, 19:30
  24. This shitty website is dead, just like the ALP.

    Posted by why bother indeed | June 24, 2013, 9:07
  25. Kelly O’Dwyer gross and appalling??????????????????? You met Sophie Mirabella??????????

    Posted by Anon | June 24, 2013, 10:20
  26. That little fat dwarf Scott Ryan (?) takes the cake over those Obnoxious know all.

    Posted by H the B | June 24, 2013, 10:44
  27. Yes, Mirabella one of the only women who’d even give a concrete statue a soft cock.

    Posted by Anon | June 24, 2013, 14:08
  28. I much prefer farm animals than Mirabella or O’Dwyer. The bleating post coitus makes far more session than those two.

    Posted by Cory Barnyardi | June 24, 2013, 22:29
  29. This website is chock full of braindead suckholes. You are all about as amusing as a kick in the balls.

    Posted by shoot me | June 25, 2013, 0:13
  30. I dont care who leads any of the parties as it does not affect my vote in Melbourne Ports. Danby last every time for the last 16 years.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 18:23
  31. [deleted – defamatory]

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 19:03
  32. Gillard and Rudd out. Michael Danby is the new leader of the titanic.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 19:04
  33. Bill Shorten is not to be trusted ever again be it in politics or in civi street

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 19:06
  34. Gillard has won!

    Posted by Canberra Insider | June 26, 2013, 19:21
  35. Rudd 57 and Gillard 44. However this will not change the disaster that awaits the ALP on 14 Sep 13

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 19:57
  36. Michael Danby for deputy ALP leader and treasurer.

    Zionist are good at laundering money to that tax haven Israel.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 26, 2013, 20:00
  37. We finaly got rid of that womyn

    Posted by Dill Shortbread | June 26, 2013, 20:08
  38. So, now we know that the Labor party harbours 57 misogynists!
    Oh! I’m going to have so much fun baiting Labor party members and supporters over the next couple of months.
    Seriously what the fuck were you lot thinking? Gillard was toxic but you had to replace her with damaged goods Kevin 747 someone you have spent the last 12 months bagging, quotes which the Liberals will now play back on a endless loop,
    and the rabid feminists! The meltdown will be epic!
    Or will they now sit down and be quiet, in the name of progressive politics?

    Posted by Scott | June 26, 2013, 21:25
  39. The best part is Mr ‘Impotence’ Conroy is on the back bench of the Senate.

    Posted by anon | June 26, 2013, 22:01
  40. Put best people forward
    Shorten for treasurer

    Posted by H | June 26, 2013, 22:20
  41. Gee hasn’t Garrett been a winner as a politician, the turd flushed himself!

    Posted by anon | June 26, 2013, 22:21
  42. Michael Danby backed Gillard on TV before the spill.

    This could be the shortest lived job as Parliamentary Secretary for the Arts in memory.

    Danby was silent on the Linden Gallery controversy too even though it happened in his electorate too. Just a fence sitter on most things.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 27, 2013, 6:40
  43. Danby could never be mistaking for a man of action. He is far better to selling K-Tel steak knifes on a low budget 3rd rate daytime tv show, than being an MP.

    Posted by anon | June 27, 2013, 7:21
  44. LOL landeryou, biggest story of the year, and you missed it.

    This has been brewing for weeks, and you were too busy hanging crap on the greens, LOFL

    Ave atque vale to a once fine purveyor of news

    Posted by Lucius Cornelius Sulla | June 27, 2013, 8:31
  45. Michael Danby and I sharing the love. See Melbourne Herald Sun, 28 Jun 13, page 31.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 28, 2013, 17:09
  46. Now, now Adrian, how could you be so nasty about an upstanding member of the Labor Party. Our Kevin will sweep the floor under that two faced destroyer of fair go and will have just a big win the libs will fit into a Phonebox.

    Posted by Brimbank finest | June 28, 2013, 20:56
  47. Daniel please bend over whilst I amuse myself?

    Posted by Adrian 'jack off' Jacksom | June 28, 2013, 21:51
  48. VexNews seems to consist of little else these days but half-stories wrapped in a 1,000 word Landeryou editorial. I used to come here to get actual news. All we get these days is hyperventilating opinion and a pathetic obsession with turning every vague piddling incident that involves the Greens into scandalgate 2013.
    It all so droolingly revels in minutiae that the desperation is palpable.
    And it all just looks like a giant shoulder-chip that sheets back to MUSU 1991 (hey we haven’t seen a Guy Rundle hack job for a while??)

    Posted by Adam | June 28, 2013, 21:54
  49. The proposed VEC boundary redistributions look interesting. In Albert Park District, Elwood goes to Brighton and St Kilda Rd (to Queens Rd) goes to Prahran.

    Brighton Liberals can absorb an influx of Elwood red/greens comfortably while St Kilda Rd is mostly Liberal and this will help Prahran Liberal MP too.

    The ALP may gain in the new seats of Werribee and Sunbury but who knows what will happen as Julia is now gone federally and Victorian westies may not like Rudd. Shorten name is mud in the west too.

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 29, 2013, 0:01
  50. Andrew please unblock my 2 comments of 26 Jun 13 as well as my last one on 29 Jun 13. Is the word Sh**ten a problem?

    Posted by Adrian Jackson | June 29, 2013, 0:06
  51. Neb, don’t forget the blue tie for g7

    Posted by Long gone | June 30, 2013, 0:20
  52. kev’y the “white coconut” the best friend the smugglers have…its a wonder u e staters can tie your own shoe laces…. r u something mad..
    return the “coconut head” labor clown…we dont get him in WA because he is an absurd retard….

    Posted by rime | June 30, 2013, 0:29
  53. That is in WA incest is the state’s pastime which has caused major genetic flaws in most West Australians.

    Posted by rime | June 30, 2013, 17:02

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